1993-11-18CONSE NVATION COMMISSION
SEVERLY, MASSACHUSETTS
MINUTES OF NOVEMBER 18, 1993 MEETING
MEMBERS PRESENT: VINCENT COTREAU, NANCY LODGE, GLENN TERRY, ALIX
SMALL, CLAYTON SMALL AND ASSOCIATE MEMBER, DAVID LANG.
MEETING CALL TO ORDER AT 7:45 P.M.
GLENN TERRY MOTIONED FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING SESSION TO OPEN AND
ALIX SMALL SECONDED THE MOTION.
ALL IN FAVOR.
FIRST CITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AMHERST RD. & RTE. 128.
SUBDIVISION - 12 HOUSE LOTS. LOT 74 MAP 52.
CONSTRUCTION OF ROADWAY AND UTILITIES PARTIALLY IN BORDERING
VEGETATED WETLAND AND IN THE ASSOCIATED BUFFER ZONE, CONSTRUCTION
OF STORMWATER DETENTION FACILITY IN THE BUFFER ZONE AND BORDERING
VEGETATED WETLAND FILLING FOR HOUSE CONSTRUCTION.
CURT YOUNG, OF WETLANDS PRESERVATION, INC./GEORGETOWN, MA
REPRESENTED AND ALSO SUBMITTED A NEW PLAN AT THIS TIME.
TOTAL WETLAND FILLING - 4400 FT. REPLICATION - 6000 FT.
A 12" RCP PIPE UNDER THE ROAD. THERE ARE 3 REPLICATION AREAS
THAT FLOW FROM THE PROPERTY, PAST FLOW SOUTH, NOW DIVERTED INTO A
CATCH BASIN. LOT 12 - RE: FINAL DESIGN WILL COME BEFORE THE
CO¥~ISSION.
CHAIRMAN - RE: LOT 1 - TOO MUCH WETLAND, CAN IT BE CUT BACK?
CURT YOUNG - YES, WANTS TO PROVIDE A BACKYkRD.
CHAIRMAN - ASKED ABOUT TURNIN~ THE HOUSE, THEN HALF THE LAND COULD
BE USED.
GLENN TERRY - 1460 SQUARE FEET - FILL AREA? CORNER BUILDING TO
WETLANDS - WHAT IS THE DISTkNCE?
CURT YOUNG - IN THE VICINITY OF 15 FEET. 15' VEGETATED STRIP OF
ROAD/AMHERST ROAD SIDE.
CLAYTON SMALL - IS THERE CITY WATER AND SEWER - EXISTING DWELLING?
CURT YOUNG - YES TO CITY WATER AND SEWER, YES EXISTING DWELLING IS
ON CITY SEWER.
CHAIRMAN - RE: TO THE OLD CULVERT CAPACITY?
CURT YOUNG - YES, THERE HAS BEEN AN EVALUATION OF DRAINAGE SYSTEM
AT THE PLANNING BOARD MEETING. THE SYSTEM TO OBERLIN ROAD.
COMMISSIONER ZAMBOURAS - TO PUT MORE WATER TO CORNELL ROAD.
CHAIRMAN - HOW IS THE FLOW NOW?
CURT YOUNG - THE WATER IS FUNNELLED THROUGH A DETENTION BASIN, THE
8" PIPE BECOMES A CONTROL POINT,
CHAIRF~N - ALL OF THE WATER FROM THE DRIVEWAY WiLL DRAIN INTO THE
STREET DRAINS.
ALIX SF~LL - QUESTIONED THE GAS FROM THE DRIVEWAY.
CURT YOUNG - IT IS NOT A CONCERN AT THIS POINT, IT WOULD NOT IMPACT
THE WETLAND AREAS.
GLENN TERRY - RE: LOT 1 - REPOSITION DWELLING?
HAS A PROBLEM, THE BACKYARD BIGGER AND IN 5 YEARS THE WETLANDS WILL
BE SMALLER. 53,000 SQUARE FEET - LARGEST LOT AND HOUSE IN THE
DEVELOPMENT.
DAVID LANG - RE: DRAINAGE, RAINFALL ON THE HOUSE.
BETWEEN LOTS 1 & 2, LOT 1i - DOWN TO STREET DRAINAGE.
NANCY LODGE ARRIVED AT THIS TIME (8:07).
CLAYTON S~ALL - QUESTIONED THE DRIVEWAY TO THE EXISTING DWELLING.
CUPT ¥0U}~G - THERE IS AN AGREEMENT TO TERMINATE ACCESS TO RTE. !28.
THE DRIVEWAY IS OUTSIDE THE BUFFER ZONE.
CHAIRF_AN - PUT THE 100' BUFFER ZONE ON THE PLAN.
DAVID LANG - RE: THE AMOUNT OF FILL AND THE ROAD ACROSS THE
WETLANDS, ALSO iS THERE A PROPOSED BRIDGE.
CURT YOUNG - NO, IT IS A WATERFED WETLAND, A BROAD FLAT AREA, WITH
MAPLES, THERE IS NO FLOW THERE.
CHAIRMAN - IT IS SHALLOW, SEWERAGE LINES GO THROUGH THERE.
NANCY LODGE - IT IS A BIG MEADOW, AND IN THE WINTER, THERE IS WATER
AND KIDS SKATE THERE.
CURT YOUNG - YES, AREAS TF~T WOULD FLOOD IN THE WINTER, NO PLANS
OR DISTURBANCE THERE TO ANY HOMES SURROUNDING. CORNELL ROAD HAS A
HIGHER CAPACITY. HE DID APPROACH THE RESIDENTS ABOUT AN ALTERNATE
ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY, BUT COULD NOT FIND SOMEONE WILLING TO SELL.
ALIX SMALL - AMiqERST ROAD SHOULD BE EXTENDED.
GLENN TERRY - DISAGREES. THERE IS A HOUSE THERE AND TO RTE. 128
LESS THAN 100 FEET.
CLAYTON SMALL - PROPOSED DETENTION FACILITY IN A 10/100 YR. STORM.
CURT YOUNG - ABOUT 2 FEET NOT MUCH WATER.
CLAYTON SMALL - IS A SINGLE CULVERT OVER THE CROSSING AREA
SUFFICIENT.
CURT YOUNG - TO LOWER THE ROAD AND LESS WETLAND FILLING.
CLAYTON SF~LL - WOULD 2 SF~LLER CULVERTS BE BETTER THAN i LARGER
ONE.
CURT YOUNG - WOULD HAVE TO RAISE THE ROAD.
THE GROUNDWATER IS THE SOURCE OF WATER FOR THE qETLAND.
GLENN TERRY - LOTS 4 - 5 WETLANDS?
CURT YOUNG - THERE IS A SMALL AREA THAT POCKETS IN THE SPRINGTIME
(NOT A JURISDICTION AREA).
THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT WAS PUT IN THE 60'S, WHEN THE SUBDIVISION WAS
MADE.
THE SOILS WILL BE EXCAVATED OUT AND STOCKPILED. THE TOPSOIL WILL
BE SAVED THEN AREAS WILL BE BACKFILLED WITH ONE FOOT OF SOIL FROM
THE AREA LOST OR REPLICATION AREA. PLENTY OF SOIL FOR REPLICATION
FROM AREAS, LOST SMALL HUMMOCK TREES.
DAVID LANG - QUESTIONED THE HYDRO SOILS?
CURT YOUNG - WILL RE USE THEM, ALL WETLAND AREAS HAVE THEM.
CLAYTON SMALL - LOT 1 - CUT BACK ON THE FILL AREA.
CURT YOUNG - MORE HOUSE OR "SQUEEZE" IT DOWN TO F~.KE THE CHANGE ON
THE NEW PLAN.
ALDER~N COUGHLiN - ALSO PRESENT - DISCUSSION AT THIS TIME.
CHAIR~3.N - THERE IS A 15 FT. BUFFER ZONE ON AMHERST ROAD IT WILL
PROTECT THE WETLAND. LOTS 1 & 2 ARE OUR JURISDICTION.
DAVID LANG - A_RE YOU GOING TO RE CONFIGURE LOT 1.
CHAIRMAN - ~UESTIONED THE SIDEWALK ELIMINATION,
WETLAND.
AND SAVE THE
SHfFPING LIST:
LOT ! Tf RE CONFIGURE
GAS TR~SS
BUFFER [iNE ON PLAN
10 & 10[ YEAR STORM
~EARING iDNTINUED DECEMBER !6TH.
GLENN TERRY MOTIONED TO RECONVENE TO THE REGULAR MEETING AND
CLAYTON SMALl SECONDED THE MOTION.
ALL IN FAVOR
ALIX SMALL EiiTED AT THIS TIME.
REQUEST/DETEF£~iNATION/APPLICABILiTY: BRUCE COOK 77 LOTHROP ST.
LOT 37. TO i~STALL GRANITE STEPS AND A WOOD PLATFORM BY RETAINING
WALL BY THE CCEAN. IS ONLY EXCAVATING FOR HOLES FOR FOOTINGS.
DAVID LANG - KE: TO THE SAND A~ND ROCK AREA.
BRUCE COOK - ID REMOVE THE ROCKS AND WILL ADD VEGETATION. A STEEP
SLOPE BEYOND IHE SAND AREA. A VERY SUBSTANTIAL WALL.
CHAIRMAN - VIEWED THE SITE./ RECOMMENDS TO FILE AN ABBREVIATED
NOTICE OF INTENT. GLENN MOTIONED TO FILE AND NANCY LODGE SECONDED.
CLAYTON SMALl - STATED TMAT~%~THING IN THE BUFFER ZONE SHOULD FILE
APPLICANT iS TO INSTALL SILT BARRIER AND HAY BALES.
CLAYTON SMALl - HOW WILL THE EXCAVATION OF THE ROCK AND SAND TAKE
PLACE.
BRUCE COOK - A~L DONE BY HAND. NO MACHINERY.
REQUEST - TR~K AND CABOT LOT 13
BRUCE MORGANCF HORSLEY AND WITTEN, INC. OF BARNSTABLE, MA
CORNER OF P~PERTY IS A SLOPED AREA. TO SURVEY THE NORTHERN
PORTION OF T~ SITE.
CLAYTON SMALL - IF IT IS OUTSIDE OF THE BUFFER ZONE, THEN WHY HERE
WITH A REQUESt.
MORGAN - BECAUSE OF JULY'S POSITIVE ON A SIMILAR REQUESTED AREA.
CLAYTON SMALl - RE: WETLAND FLAGGING.
CHAIRMAN - NC IT IS WELL OVER i00' AWAY FROM THE WETLANDS. THE
APPLICANT IS 5OOKING FOR A NEGATIVE DETERMINATION.
DAVID LANG - A_RE THE LOCATIONS IDENTIFIED?
BRUCE MORGAN- ALL ARE ON THE ¥~P.
CLAYTON SMALl MOTIONED A NEGATIVE DETERMINATION AND NANCY LODGE
SECONDED THE MOTION.
ALL IN FAVOR.
REQUEST EL~-_--'*i/RED ROCK LAND
JOHN DICK FRC(~ F~NCOCK SURVEY iN DANVERS REPRESENTED CARNEVALE THE
OWNER.
HE WANTS THE iOMMISSION TO VISIT THE SITE WITH JOHN DICK. THE
UPPER LEFT F~SD CORNER OF ?HE PLAN IS A SMALL POCKE? OF WE?LANDS
AND THE UPLANDS INSIDE THE WETLANDS.
CHAIRMAN - WHERE DOES IT DRAIN, INTO LONGHAM RESERVOIR.
JOHN DICK - SOUTH OF BERRYWOOD LANE.
GLENN TERRY - GLENN'S BROTHER IS AN ABUTTER.
ARE THERE WETLANDS ON THIS PARCEL?
JOHN DICK - YES, EXTENSIVE WETLANDS.
SITE VISIT - DECEMBER 5 AT !i:00
TO MEET ON RED ROCK LAND.
HEARING CONTINUED DECEMBER I6TH.
A.M. SUNDAY.
CERTIFiCATES/COMPLIANCE:
(2) DAN FINN LOT 2 BRIDLE PATH LANE 5-366 & 5-449.
GLENN TERRY VIEWED THE SITE AND HAS NO PROBLEM, THE BRIDGE IS
IN PLACE. HE MOTIONED TO GRANT THEM AND CLAYTON SMALL SECONDED.
ALL IN FAVOR.
SYMES OAK HILLS ESTATES - 5-204
TO SIGN TONIGHT AND TO VISIT SUNDAY BY CLAYTON SMALL AND VINNIE
COTREAU. ANYONE IS WELCOME TO VIEW THE SITES SUNDAY MORNING.
GLENN TERRY MOTIONED ONLY TO SIGN THE 2 MOST URGENTLY NEEDED AT
THIS TIME. LOT 19 AND LOT 27. AND TO TABLE THE REMAINING 2 - LOT
12A AND LOT 43. ALL IN AGREEMENT.
PERMIT EXTENSION: NOBLE HILL ROAD 5-140.
CLAYTON SMALL MOTIONED TO GRANT THE 1-1/2 YR. EXTENSION AND NANCY
LODGE SECONDED THE MOTION.
ALL iN FAVOR.
AT 9:36 P.M., CLAYTON SMALL MOTIONED TO ADJOURN AND NANCY LODGE
SECONDED THE MOTION.
ALL IN FAVOR.
MARIE S. COTREAU.