1990-01-25CONSERVATION COMMISSION
BEVERLY, MASSACHUSETTS
MINUTES FROM MEETING ON JANUARY 25, 1990
MEMBERS PRESENT: Peter Gilmore, Bill Liss, Vinnie Cotreau, Joe Manzi,
Nancy Lodge, and George Batchelder, and proposed member Guy Rossi sat
in.
MEETING CALLED TO ORDER AT 7:45 P.M. !
DISCUSSION
Regarding Wellington Hills Subdivision # 5-204
Attorney Ted Regnante, Bank of New England,
Steve Frazer of Linsky Construction Co.
Attorney Regnante represented the applicant.
Stated has worked closely with George Zambouras, City of Beverly. Had
a rneeting with the Fire Department and "water looping" on the project,
for safety reasons.
Steve Frazer, Engineer for Linskey, submitted a plan depicting the
water lines, utilities, drain line 30-35 feet deep, water line is 5
feet deep. The Old Town Water line will be tied in, therefore,
making an entire water loop. Hay bales wiil be installed along the
wetlands, work will take about 2 weeks.
Vinnie questioned the line being into the wetland?
Frazer: No, the new line will only be hooked onto it.
Bill Liss: How much disturbance?
Frazer: No (wet land) will be disturbed. The only wetland involved
was at the cul-de-sac when the line was already put in prior.
Technically the only change is that a pipe is being added.
City Solicitor, Tom Alexander, stated this is being done specifically
for safety measures.
George Batchelder mentioned a water line, but was told it was in
reference to Hathaway Avenue's filing
George Zambouras clarified the project.
Vinnie Cotreau considers this to be "minor".
Bill Liss motioned a filing is not necessary
George Batchelder seconded.
The Chair does not concur.
Attorney Regnante wants to begin work, we're just adding a pipe in an
area where previous approval was already granted.
Joe Manzi: Can an amendment be added?
George Batchelder: Much filling has taken place there, the Commission
was asked, last summer, to go out there and look.
ALL IN FAVOR
Not significant to file for a Notice of Intent.
Vinnie Cotreau commented that all of The Commission will go out to
look at the site and the project.
MOTION TO RECESS FOR A PUBLIC HEARING
made by Vinnie Cotreau
seconded by Nancy Lodge
ALL. IN FAVOR
COVE CIRCLE #5-339 CARBONE REQUESTS HEARING CONTINUED.
Nancy Lodge motioned to grant a-one-month continuance
Joe Manzi seconded.
ALL. IN FAVOR
CITY OF BEVERLY #5-343, Continued Public Hearing
George Zambouras, represented.
Stated hay bales have been placed. All work done, in accordance that
the Commission has asked for.
George Batchelder motioned to close the hearing,
Bill Liss seconded it.
ALL IN FAVOR
GRASSO Continued Liberty at Newbury Street
Jim O'Day, Civil Seites Engineer Company.
Vinnie Cotreau: Still disagrees with the drainage and run-off being
the Elevation is of 37.6. It doesn't make sense if a 10-year storm
appears.
Jim O'Day stated we've a very small area with very small run-off.
We've reshaped the ditch to retain the water run-off.
George Batchelder commented on the red maples, has spoken with DEP,
red maples are a wetland species. This is an issue to be discussed.
We feel that the wetland boundary is in error. It should be moved
closer to the house. Regarding the cul-de-sac the house, all around,
would have to be moved 2 1/2 feet, there is a 5 foot discrepancy.
Peter Gilmore: There's no dispute on the e st side as to where the
wetlands are.
Vinnie Cotreau stated Dr. Kent and the Board must agree before
flagging and staking. Hay bales are now between the red maples and
the wetlands. Alan Taubert, consultant, Department of Public Works
Commissioner, stated regarding the applicant have provided a ditch and
enlargended it. Calculations have been provided for 10 and 100 year
storms. They have mitigated their paving and the roof tops. The weir
has been constructed all downhill, water will flow.
Vinnie Cotreau stated regarding Cul-de-sac very close to the wetlands.
Could a drain be placed, not at such a distance? 44' at the beginning
and at the end.
Alan Taubert has asked the applicant to provide curbing, which would
help.
Vinnie Cotreau would like another 2 catch basins on the project.
O'Day commented too expensive.
Planning Board approved the cul-de-sac at 4.5 feet.
Peter Gilmore: The plan will have to be changed.
Bill Liss: We'll have to go back into the field, re-flag the wetlands
on a compromise basis, check out the cul-de-sac, set the house.
GENERAL. PUBLIC
Mr. Feldmen: Water concerns, questioned only one manhole, can it
handle all the water?
Peter Gilmore understands this to be no more water now, than after the
project is built.
Jim O'Day: All storage ditch is built above the 100 year flood
elevation. Couldn't make it any safer.
~.~ear 'Flood elevatior~ now. Zsf'l' ~: that whM ~e're here nOLU? The ~atep
has come up to i'.::.:, 'Cee'l:: a'( IT;M house. Stand:i.r~g water is ther'e pight
no~ we should go bM realit~.j~ rio'( bM just number's.
Peter 6ilmore-'bc~ Feldman:
All the applicant is asked to do~ is not create problems, not to make
~at tsPs Worse.
James Mc:6inn o¢ 13 6orning St. submitted a :letter t:o the Gommission
rewarding tree and shrub clearing on thi~ si(e.
George Ba'l:chelder-ori a new plan- m 90 fort cul-.de--sac, go in'bo the
field and ag~"ee on a boundmrM. This should be continued until such is
resolved regar'd:[ng the wetland boundar~ being the issue.
Pete~ Gilmore stat:ed~ all tl',i~ is not ou~ re¢iporlsibilit~ the
cul--de-sac b~as measu~ecl t:odaM b~ the Corr~mission~ ~t is 5 feet shopt,.
Given choic, e~ Dr'. Ken'l: should be here at the next meet~f]9~ either:
Febr'ua~ 8th o~ F'la~ch Zst.
don'tinued to FebPuar'~j 8th
1 0 M I NUTE RI'3: CF.:SS
SESD ( S()LJl'H ESSEEX SEWER DISI'RiCT)
Modi¢ication Wa¥'d ll Playground ~-232.
Representing, Jim Rwan, Metcalf and Edd~ Compan~
Sta'l:ed.~ Original Order of Conditions issued in 1986.
Bill Liss excused himself, due to a conflict of interest, as he is an
emploMee o¢ South Essex Seu)er District.
The most signi¢icant change is the barge area. A conveyor will be
build and a harbor will be built on land,. The convegor belt will be
open (24" wide), Filter fabric will line the convek¢or so silt ~ill not
seep through. 'Th~s will be done on a continuing dail~ basis-April
through October. The onlM place the conveyor belt can be started,
will be on the barge.
Vinnie Cotreau mentions0 the necess:i.t~ of sides as to avoid spilling
over ·
George Batchelder mentioned spra~ ¢o~ the du~t.
Norman Stewart 6 Webber Avenue asked regarding the Convewor belt. Is
it adjustable? Also, mhere will it be unloaded?
Maggie Fallon 9 Agate St. has silt concerns.
Jud~ Gillespie 11 Agate St'. asked Where will the water come from for
sprawing? Hoping this will be done quickl~ and correctlw.
Jim RMan stated a watel" service f:rom the citM.
Bob Birch, contract Manage~' stated We don't anticipate using too much
Peter Gilmore to Mr. Step, art- We're in c. ontr~l of loading the barge,
not trucking, etc.
Gu~ Rossi 29 L. inden ~venue. Doesn"t have confidence in SESD. He
feels Ward Ii has been mislead.
Peter Gilmor:s, asked about pi lin~:js being the on lb u~ak.) 'l::c:, uphold the
barge ,,
George Hc) lt, Cc)ntractc)r, ~s'l::ated sa'Pe u~a~.~, './er~-] nea'~::~, s:i. rrd:~lest and
cleanest u~a~d rather tha~
ALL IN F,4VOR
RECONVENE
Discus~s:Lon ~.uit:h Gar~ ¢olard~j regar-ding Ancient Rub!:)l~ Wa~ :1:~5.....20~.
ThE.~ Corm'nissicon requires
-Base e 1 eva'l:: i on s
Vinnie Cotreau questioned regarding Cot 2 R:~.p-Rap ~;all a lo'k of
chips, a problem ~,iti", siltation later on?
V:i. nnie C(:)'i::reau tc, ~'~:~,e~:: ~i'l:h 6~ar~ Po].ardH a'l: the end
indicate plar,'~:ings on the plan '?or a Cer'~ifica'l:e of' Colrd:;liapce.
CITY OF' BE;:VERLY
ORDER OF-- COixiDI'I'iONS S'FANDARDS
Vinn'i.e {;o'l::'r'.i:;¢a',.u r'rrc)'l::iorl6.~.d 'for S'~.andards.
George Bat:chelder seconded
ALL IN FAVOR
SESD
Motiorl t,.':~ arl'~E, nd the Order of Conditions.
An,_-./ a6(:~ll?;uistioo o¢ debr. is~ or dust; acc~rr;~]lation 'i:o be clear'ed [:ir) a
(::la i 1 ~ bas i s.
Conveyor be:l.t.....corls'i:ructicm arid loading and bar(;:i, ng operation ~,ill be
,':',"tied out as d(escr:[bed in a let'l::er da'bed 1-..18---96~ 'Prom Metcal'¢ and
Edd~:j to r:he ]~.6e'v'erlM CoT~s~z, rva'J::.i, ol]
Aprc)n shall be c. ons'~ruc(ed u:i. th side(galls sufficient
d e b r .i. s~.
~Z L,J.'~:~.=~ IT~O'!:::[O?'~E,d I::0
Nancy Lod~je seco)haled
ALL :IN FAVOR
Marie S. Co'f_'reau/clerk