1991-10-10CONSERVATION COMMI~ION
BEVERLY, MABBACHUSETT~
MINUTES OF OCTOBER 10, 1991 MEETING
MEMBERS PRESENT: CHAIRMAN PETER GILMORE, VICE CHAIRMAN GEORGE
BATCHELDER, BILL LISS. JOE HANZI, GLENN TERRY, NANCY LODGE, VINNIE
COTREAU, 2 ASSOCIATES: ALISON SIMCOX AND CLAYTON SMALL.
CALLED TO ORDER AT: 7:45 P.M..
MOTION TO RECESS FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING MADE BY GLENN TERRY AND
SECONDED BY VINNIE COTREAU. ALL IN FAVOR.
AT THIS TIME, THE CHAIRMAN READ THE SEVEN INTERESTS OF THE ACT THAT
SOLELY APPLY TO THIS COMMiSSiON. HE STATED THAT THIS COMMISSION
IS NOT CONCERNED WITH THE TRAFFIC IMPACT, AIR POLLUTION, NOR THE
DESIGN OF IT.
#5-388 SALEM - BEVERLY BRIDGE.
~DPW TRANSPORTATION PROJECT.
CONCERNS SOLELY WITH THE BRIDGE "iTSELF".
PRESENT: FROM MDPW: CHIEF ENGR. MICHAEL W. SWANSON. ROBT. LAPSLEY.
& THOS. BRODERICK. ROBT. JOSEPH & MARYANN MAGNER OF EDWARDS AND
KELCEY DESIGN, HUGH MULLIGAN OF GULF OF .MAINE RESEARCH, SALEM, MA
ROBERT J. JOSEPH, ARCHITECT. MADE THE PRESENTATION. DISPLAYED THE
PROJECT. ENTIRE PROJECT rS 2 MILES LONG. 2000' IN LENGTH. 90% IN
SALEM. 900' iN BEVERLT. 40~' iN LENGTH iN BEVERLY. IT IS
~cm~T,~nvv,.~..~,_~ ON la. CONCRETE PIERS. 3 OF WHICH ARE IN BEVERLY ALL
UNDER THE CONSERVATION COMMISSION'S JURISDICTION. A LETTER FROM
THE AP, MT CORPS. OF ENGRS. RE': pHASE i WAS READ AT THiS TIME. MDPW
IS SEEKING AN ORDER OF CONDITIONS FROM BEVERLY. MR. JOSEPH
EXPLAINED THE TIDAL FLATS. LAND UNDER THE OCEAN. COASTAL BANKS,
AND THE FISH LINE. ALL THIS UNDER OUR JURISDICTION. TOTALING AN
AREA OF .23 ACRES FOR RESOURCES PERMANENT ALTERATIONS. ALSO
MENTIONED TEMPORARY ALTERATIONS FOR THE DETOUR STRUCTURE. 2 FEET
OF STONE WILL BE DUMPED AROUND THE FOOTINGS. .693 - ACRES
TEMPORARY ALTERATIONS AND .23 ACRES OF PERMANENT ALTERATIONS. NO
SALT MARSH EXISTS ON THiS PROJECT. IN ORDER TO MEET THE
PERFORF~NCE STANDARDS, IT PROHIBITS CONSTRUCTION iN A RIVER DURING
SPAWNING: COASTAL BANK-NO DISTURBANCE THAT WOULD CAUSE FLOODING/OR
ALTER THE BANK IN ANY WAY. TIDAL FLATS-TO MINIMIZE THE IMPACT.
LAND UNDER WATER-TO PROTECT SHELLFISH. THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE
PIER WILL BE DONE IN COFFER DAMS, DRIVING OF PILES, AND DEWATERING
WILL TAKE PLACE.
COMMISSIONERS
VICE CHAIRMAN, GEORGE BATCHELDER QUESTIONED THE MUSCLE BEDS, UNDER
THE PILINGS.
MS. MAGNER-DEAD MUSCLE EXISTS, DIVERS HAVE GONE DOWN TO TAKE
SAMPLES; ALSO SEDIMENTATION IS THERE TOO.
CHAIRMAN GILMORE-THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN STATED IN THE NOTICE OF
INTENT.
GEORGE BATCHELDER-IF 10,000 CLAMS ARE TO BE DESTROYED, WE SHOULD
SEE THIS IN THE NOTICE OF INTENT WITH A SEDIMENT ANALYSIS, ETC.
ALSO, RE: THE FISH RUN-AVOIDING MID-MARCH THROUGH MID-JUNE, WHAT
ABOUT CONSTRUCTION AT THIS TIME.
MR. JOSEPH-SPECIAL SPECIES, ALSO, CAN BE ADDRESSED IN THE ORDER OF
CONDITIONS, WILL RELY ON THE DIVISION OF MARINE FISHERIES. ONCE
THE COFFER DAMS ARE INSTALLED, CONSTRUCTION CAN GO ON. THE
COMMISSION IS TO BE INFORMED ON ALL THIS MONITORING. THIS IS TO
BE SUBMITTED IN WRITING.
VINNIE COTREAU QUESTIONED THE RIP RAP.
MR. JOSEPH-YES, PERMANENT RIP RAP, LAND UNDER WATER IS A RESOURCE
AREA.
VINNIE COTREAU-RE: THE RIP RAP WHAT WILL BE DISPLACE/REPLACE.
HUGH MULLIGAN-EXPLAINED A WORM TYPE (HARD) SUBSTANCE IS THERE NOW,
AND WILL BE REPLACE WITH MUSCLE BEDS. WILL. ADD MORE ROCKY
SUBSTANCE, WILL SUBMIT ALL THIS IN WRITING.
BILL LISS-RE: THE 3 PIERS IN BEVERLY-BOTTOM STRUCTURES.
MR. JOSEPH-THERE WERE 5 ALTERNATIVES STATED IN THE CORPS. LETTER.
IT WAS A STRUCTUP~L DECISION AS TO THE PLACEMENT OF THE PIERS.
NANCY LODGE-SIZE OF THE RIP RAP, WANTS CLARIFIED.
VINNIE COTREAU-DISPLACEMENT OF THE WATER, AS TO CAUSE FLOODING?
MR. JOSEPH-NO-IT WOULD FALL UNDER COASTAL BANK AND FLOODING.
HUGH MULLIGAN-RE: FLOODING, APPLICANT IS NOT REQUIRED TO RESTORE
COASTAL RELATED FLOODING.
GEORGE BATCHELDER-WHAT ABOUT COASTAL BEACHES.
MR. JOSEPH-FIRST PIER, ON A COASTAL BANK AT LOW TIDE-ON TIDAL
FLATS.
CHAIRMAN GiLMORE-WOULD LIKE TO KNOW RE: EACH PiER HOW MUCH AND OF
WHAT MATERIALS?
MR. JOSEPH-WILL ALTER APPROXIMATELY .19 ACRES OF COASTAL BEACH.
GEORGE BATCHELDER-DISCHARGE POINT OF GROUNDWATER.
COMMISSIONER ZAMBOURAS-DOES NOT AGREE WITH THE CALCULATIONS,
BELIEVES THE AREAS ARE WRONG, DO NOT PROVIDE FOR ALL THE
SUBCATCHING AREA. MORE DETAILS IS REQUIRED.
GEORGE BATCHELDER-QUESTIONED REMOVING SEDIMENTS INSIDE THE
COFFERDAMS, DEWATERING PROCESS ON THE BARGES. ALSO, WHERE WILL THE
REMOVED SEDIMENTS GO?
MR. JOSEPH EXPLAINED HOW THE COFFER DAM KEEPS THE WATER AWAY FROM
THE CONSTRUCTION AND THE DEWATERING PROCESS. SOME WORK MUST BE
DONE IN THE "DRY", ENCOURAGES THIS SHOULD BE PUT IN THE ORDER OF
CONDITIONS. SEDIMENTATION CONTROL WILL BE USED.
GEORGE BATCHELDER-ONE SEDIMENT TEST WAS TAKEN IN BEVERLY.
COMMISSIONER ZAMBOURAS QUESTIONED, IS THIS TO BE PUT IN THE SPECS.
OR WILL THE CON:TRACTOR SUBMIT THIS? THE BOARD NEEDS THESE 2
QUESTIONS ANSWERED AS TO MAKE A DETERMINATION.
ALISON SIMCOX-IS'A HYDROLOGIST AND IS CONCERNED WITH THE POTENTIAL
LIABILITY FOR THE CITY OF BEVERLY WE (CITY) COULD BECOME
RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CLEANUP. THE TESTING DONE, SO FAR, IS NOT GOOD
ENOUGH. TCLP-ONLY TEST NOW, SHOULD BE DONE.
HUGH MULLIGAN-IF ALL IS HANDLED PROPERLY, TESTING WILL BE DONE
BEFORE GOING TO A LANDFILL.
ALISON SIMCOX-THIS IS NOT COORDINATED WITH EPA. 'I HAVE CONFERRED
WITH OTHERS THIS IS NOT JUST MY OPINION.
GEORGE BATCHELDER-CONCURS WITH THE CHAIRMAN, THAT ALL THESE THINGS
TO BE DONE LATER, SHOULD BE ADDRESSED NOW. INSUFFICIENT
INFORMATION AT THIS TIME. WOULD NOT APPROVE OF THIS PROJECT NOW,
SHOULD TAKE TEST OF RAW SAMPLES AND THE RESULT OF THE LEVELS.
ALSO THE REPLICATION AREA .19 ACRES OF COASTAL BANK, TO BE
REPLICATED IN THE SALEM CANAL.
CHAIRMAN GILMORE-TO MR~ JOSEPH-STATED THAT HE IS NOT TO CHANGE THE
FORM OF ANY COASTAL BEACH, HOW CAN WE ALLOW YOU TO DESTROY 8000
SQUARE FEET OF COASTAL BEACH/BANK?
HE THEN PROCEEDED TO READ FROM THE REGULATIONS, AND WANTS ANANSWER
TO THIS.. ALSO NOTHING IN THE NOTICE OF INTENT REFERS TO THE
DETOUR, SHOULD BE IN THE SUBMISSION.
GEORGE BATCHELDER-QUESTIONED THE REPLICATION.
CHAIP, MAN-REPLICATION NOT NECESSARY TO COASTAL.
GEORGE BATCHELDER-.19 ACRES.
MR. JOSEPH-3 BRIDGE PIERS-CEMENT-TO GO THERE.
NANCY LODGE-AGREES WITH CHAIRMAN GILMORE.
PUBLIC OFFICIALS
ALDERMAN ROLLINS-COMMENTED THAT 6-7 YEARS AGO, MR. TAUBERT'S
(FORMER DPW COMMISSIONER) SUGGESTION WAS NOT TO MOVE THIS BRIDGE
SITE. A RE-DESIGN SHOULD BE CONSIDERED. WE SHOULD TAKE OUR TIME
TO RE-CO~IDER.
CHAIRMAN GILMORE. STATED THAT WE, THE COMMISSION, DO HAVE A TIME
FRAME THAT WE MUST GO BY, STATE REGULATIONS, ETC.
THE APPLICANT HAS CONTROL OF THE TIME, AS TO EXTENDING, ETC.
GEORGE BATCHELDER-WE NEED ALL THE INFORMATION OR WE WOULD BE FORCED
TO DENY THIS PROJECT.
JUDY GILLESPIE 1I AGATE ST. SPOKE ON BEHALF OF REPRESENTATIVE JIM
HENRY-WHO IS OPPOSED AND WILL SEND IT IN WRITING.
ABUTTERS
GUNTHER RUDENBERG 28 CLIFF STREET. QUESTIONED FIGURE 15-IN THE
SUBMISSION. THEN SPOKE ABOUT POLLUTION, RAIN RUNOFF, PLANS FOR
STORMWATER RUNOFF.
MR. JOSEPH-CABOT~'RANTOUL STREET-WATER FLOWS INTO A 24" PIPE THERE.
CHAIRMAN GILMORE-HOW WILL YOU PREVENT POLLUTANTS FROM GOING INTO
TH-E DANVERS RIVER.
MR. JOSEPH-WILL 80 INTO THE RIVER THROUGH 12" PIPES.
CHAIRMAN GILMORE~ADDRESS THE PROBLEM.
MR. JOSEPH-THE STRUCTURE IS TWICE AS WIDE, DRAINAGE IS DIRECTED
INTO THE RIVER.
CF~,IRMAN GILMORE-SHOULD COME UP WITH IDEAS RE: MITIGATION OF
POLLUTANTS.
GUNTHER RUDENBERG-MORE TRAFFIC, MORE OIL, RUBBER FROM CARS, ETC.
COMMISSIONER ZAMBOURAS-IS THE EXISTING BRIDGE TO BE REMOVED, IF
NOT, YOU ARE INSTALLING MORE FOOTINGS, INCREASING MORE VELOCITY.
THE SUBMISSION IS VERY MISLEADING.
CHAIRMAN GILMORE-EVERYTHING HAS TO BE SHOWN ON THE PLAN.
HOW IT WILL BE REMOVED, SEDIMENTATION.
COMMISSIONER ZAMBOURAS-THIS WILL CAUSE TURBULENCE, INCREASE TIDAL
FLOW.
PETER HARTLINE 28 NEPTUNE STREET.
A HIGHER PERFORMANCE STANDARD SHOULD BE INSISTED UPON. REMOVING
i ACRE OF A HABITAT, PILE REMOVAL WILL ALL HAVE ADVERSE IMPACT ON
FISHERIES. ALSO COMMENTED ON POISONS IN THE CLAMSHELL DREDGING,
ALL THIS COULD AFFECT THE FOOD CHAIN, ETC.
RENEE MARY 2?4 HALE STREET AGREES WITH THE CITIZENS, WIDTH IS
LIKE THE GOLDEN GATE BRIDGE. HOW MUCH SALT WILL BE DUMPED ON THE
BEVERLY BRIDGE.
HERBERT DI DONATO 169 BRIDGE ST.
JIM TREADWELL - A CERTIFIED CITY PLANNER STATED COMMENTS RE: THE
3 CABLES TO BE INSTALLED UNDER THE BRIDGE (MASS. ELECTRIC) TO COME
BEFORE THE COMMISSION. FHA PROCESS HAS YET TO BE COMPLETED AND
OTHER UTILITIES ALSO.
~OM D'AIGLO 38 FRONT ST. CONCERNS WITH FISHERIES.
RUSS ROLLINS - STATED TRAFFIC CONCERNS.
PAY FOR A TRAFFIC STUDY (INCOMPLETE)
INFORMATION.
GASOLINE RUNOFF. WE DID
WE DO NOT HAVE THE
JUDY GILLESPIE READ ABOUT COASTAL BEACH FLOODING, WE HAVE COPY ON
FILE.
ALISON SIMCOX-COMMENTED ON 3 SEDIMENT ARTICLES, MIXING CLEAN FILL
WITH HAZARDOUS FILL EQUALS ALL HAZARDOUS FILL.
NANCY LODGE-COMMENTED ON THE COST OF MOVING CABLES.
SHOPPING LIST
MORE DETAIL ANALYSIS MUSCLE COLON~ UNDER FOOTPRINT OF THE BRIDGE.
MONITORING, IN A LETTER, TO BE SUBMITTED.
AMOUNT OF TIDAL FLAT FILLING BY THE PIER.
MORE DETAILED RE: DRAINAGE CALCULATIONS.
DEWATERING INFORMATION.
TCLP TESTING AND RESULTS
WORDING ON WORK ALLOWED ON COASTAL BEACH VS. ADVERSE EFFECTS.
CHAIRMAN WANTS PROOF CLARIFICATION.
EXISTING BRIDGE REMOVAL AND METHOD OF IT.
INFORMATION RELOCATION OF CABLES AND WHO WILL BE DOING IT.
SEDIMENTATION IMPACTS.
DIRECT DISCHARGE.
DETAILS OF TEMPORARY DETOUR'.'CONSTRUCTION
MUSCLE BED, CONTAMINANTS, SEDIMENTS.
VELOCITIES, CHANGE INCREASE IN SCOURING.
A LOCALIZED INCREASE BUT WILL EVEN OUT WHEN IT PASSES THE PILINGS,
ALL WILL BE SUBMITTED.
BILL LISS-THE SAMPLING OF PCP'S.
CHAIRMAN GILMORE COMMENTED ON THE MUSCLE BEDS AND OTHER SPECIES-IT
SHOULD BE STATED IN THE SUBMITTAL. SHOULD WE BE CONCERNED WITH THE
LOSS OF THE MUSCLE HABITAT?
IMPACT OF SALT ON THE BRIDGE TO BE ADDRESSED IN THE SUBMISSION.
AT THIS TIME A 5-MINUTE RECESS.
RECONVENE.
MR. JOSEPH STATED-THEY CANNOT AT THIS TIME, EXTEND THIS MORE THAN
21 DAYS.
GLENN TERRY COMMENTED, THERE IS NOT SUFFICIENT DATA, HOW CAN WE BE
EXPECTED TO MAKE A DECISION.
GEORGE BATCHELDER-ACCEPT THE INFORMATION AFTER CLOSING, CAN WE?
JOE MANZI-IN CLOSING, ARE WE AGREEING WITH THEM?
CHAIRMAN GILMORE-THAT.IS APPARENT REASON FOR DENYING THE PROJECT
THE COASTAL BEACH ISSUE.
VINNIE COTREAU FEELS THAT CLOSING NOW, THE PUBLIC WOULD NOT
RECEIVE THEIR DUE.
GLENN TERRY MOTIONED TO CLOSE THE HEARING AND JOE MANZI SECONDED
IT.
GEORGE BATCHELDER-WHY NOT PROVIDE INFORMATION TONIGHT?
COMMISSIONER ZAMBOURAS-WHY NOT EXTEND IT FOR A 2-WEEK PERIOD.
AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED, THE BOARD CANNOT MAKE A
DETERMINATION UPON SUCH INFORMATION, IF A FULL STAFF OF
CONSERVATION WERE ACTIVE, THIS FILING WOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN
ACCEPTED, ETC. AND THIS PUBLIC HEARING WOULD NOT BE HELD.
ALL IN FAVOR OF CLOSING THE HF_J%RING, GEORGE BATCHELDER OPPOSED.
A MOTION TO ADJOURN AT 10:37 P.M. WAS MADE BY GLENN TERRY AND
SECONDED BY BILL LISS. ALL IN FAVOR.
MARIE S. COTREAU/CLERK