1988-08-25
MINUTES FROM MEETING ON AUGUST
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MEMBERS PRESENT: George Batchelder. Peter Gilmore, Vinnie Cotre2u~
Joe Manzi. Bill Liss.
MEETING CAl.LED TO ORDER AT 7=50 P.M.
RECESS FOR A PUBLIC HEARING made by Peter
seconded by Vinnie.
ALL IN FAVOR
#5-312 (cont. STURTEVANT ST. E/T. lots 1. ~. and 5
Attorney Herbert Boudreau, representing.
also Environment Engineers Paul Summer~ Chris Mello (Land Surveyor)
Owners: Prince (Mr. and Mrs.)
Contractor: Fra~k Raffa
Paul Summer made a presentation. has investigated the area, searched
for resource areas, drainage ditch.No sufficient wetland plants near
tne ditch to declare it as a defined wetland area. Doesn't connect an
upland stream to a downhill stream. Not a defined wetland as mandated
by the wetland protection act. Doesn't support wetland vegetation.
Manmade ditch does go down to Elliott St.- not a wetland ditch.
Peter: If this appears to be trus, then this commission has no
Jurisdiction re:this project.
Paul Summer: feels the commission can extend the Order of Conditions.
Vinnie: Right of way is the driveway.
Paul Summer: The pipe will go thru the driveway.
(BILL LISS ARRIVED AT THIS TIME)
Consultant Alan Taubert has reviewed the drainage calculations.
Engineer Chris Mello: Hay bales depicted on the right of way onto
Elliott St., also on greystone ave., also, on the top of the ditch.
Down slope side to be protected from the up slope side.
GENERAL PUBLIC
Roy Gelineau: Rep. his parents who live on Colgate Road.
He stated the drainage be put in place before anything else takes
place, Re: elliott S~. , asks the board to take jurisdiction in order
to prevent flooding problems.
HE,L)FUNG CLOSED
~ln8 13 Foster St.-sewer tie-in.
Representing Albert Rossi, Contractor/Engineer
Stated the city sewer passes thru the buffer zone within 100 feet.
Vinnie~ requested the area be flagged to determine the area.
Peter: concurs with Vinnie to flag the area
George: Existing sewer, gravity main.
Questioned planned manholes.
Rossi: none are planned in the buffer zone.
George: Requested that a data base be placed on the plan.
HEAR nlCi CO NT . (E3E:PTEJ'mEF~ ErrH)
SHEILDS 357 Hale Street- Land scaping and fill
To cc)ns:.i::r'uct 9.I~anitE.. s.teps~ leadin(] to grass~.J knoll c;\i~(:"a.! hF:'i::'.Vq ~'.tonE...
to fill the ravine basIcally to finIsh off an area where preVIOUS
building has been done.
Bill: quest:i.oned <3.mC)Unt of fill.
r~o.=.si: ~:,o ~.!ai-ds of fill (sma.ll Elmou.nt,:;
Vinnie~ questioned the procedure.
Rossi: 2 feet large boulders, loosely placed In - rip rap effect, will
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#5-261 MODIFICATION 228 COMMON LANE KELLY
T~iaddetlS S:ierr!as!~:o, ~"ePl"esentingu
additional 150 sq ft. to the project.
56.6 =100 yr. flood elevation.
A~ additional plan was submitted, on Augusted 25,1988 (dated)
SUFFICIENT iNFORMATION
HE:,ciR I N(::; C:LO~;E::D
#5-288 MODIFICATION WINTHROP'S GRANT
Attorney Robert Cornetta. representing
Since the order of conditions December 1987, the wetlands now differ.
Charles Wear, form Carter and Towers Engineers, stated the newly
defined wetland area. No construction will enter the wetlands with the
exception of a water main crossing.
George : questioned the water main crossing
Charles Wear~ Anticipated the inquiry re= the water main crossIng.
Will submit it on paper.
George: Requested the water line from the original plan to be applied
to the new plan.
Peter: another filing is required.
George: East side drainage line?
Charles: To put in a swale in that area.
Small area 20,000 sq. ft.
Lots 5 to 7 area drops 4 teet.
Peter: questioned siltation guards. Define it on the revised plan.
l.'.),.:::. tc!!'.. m;::l i n C),.. us;::" i n':=J . RE'qu i .r~E',::; n ;:~Y.)" t::, t i \IE' to bE S:.Ll bnj :i. 1:: t (0 ci..
-Sylvester Ave- separate filing RE=water main
-Veloctiy reduces for drainage intu wetland.
-calculations, drainage for flows into swale on easterly side..
-double rows uf hale bales.
-All plan revisions- dated
-Perm~nent easement fur wetland area- covenant.
-Report re:elevation at SESD sewer line.
Ci!::!\IEHf:;'L. PlfE.L. I C
Frank Abram Sylvester Ave. questions the reason for this modification..
and the commission's jurisdiction.
George and Bill stated that the Commissions jurisdictiun has not
c:h",:.n(;:jed..
Robert Cornetta. explained that the field conditions have changed.
f:! t c,
Frank Abram feels this should be entered as a new submission.
Questioned: the plan stating for discussion only, will the
construction be different from what we see on the plan. Expressed
flooding concerns, also the fill over the S.E.S.D. line..
Joe DeLorenzo: Did the work there- a manhole cove is there, 1~
e::< pos:.(~d ~ t he area has never been tot!. cl.t:ecl.
Frank Abram: Since the pipe has been f.illed over, Abram cannot now
identify the pipe.
(To meet Tuesday 6th at 2:00 P..M.)
Consultant Taubert: discussed hiring Gulf of Maine to evaluate the
wetlands. Requested a reimbursement of 5750.00
Attorney Cornetta= Will consider the request.
Cant. September 8th
(5 minute recess)
r~~ c::' c () n \/ f:::l ro! e
or a continuance.
MEDIPLEX cont. Chairman read letter
WILLOW POND L month extension
d :i. sc:u ss; i on.
George read letter, proceeded with a
Joe: motioned to give the 2 month extension..
George: We could choose the Time limit, either way.
Bill: concurs -seconds the motion
ALL IN FAVOR
CI~:R1.:i:FICATES ()F' CO~II~!__]:AN(:~:
357 Hale St. #5-199
Vi.ny.}j.e IDot:i.c)necl 't:o g}t~arlt 1::he (:ell'tificat:e
Peter seconded
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IN I=AV(lR
p;'~E:~~;.T()~1 PL_ACE L<:J.ts A aTl(j B #5.-.'1.98
Bill motioned for a certificate of compliance.
pp.te)ft sec:c)[)c:!ed
ALL IN FAVOR
(~RE!~NW{)(::)D AVi~ #5-.159
(TABLED AGAIN)
Pe'!=er~ 5,.!ggest:ed tha.t we Issue a partiaJ. ljJit~! .the excEF>tj.on of tt'ie curb
and t~!e dl^iveuJay"
Bill motioned to take no action tonight and to invite Greenwood Ave.
to the ?le:<t !T!eeti.%lg.
Seconded by Vir~T1ie
ALL IN FAVOR
ORDE:J~ ()F' CC)~!D:[l-]:O~!S
11-25 Water St. #5-315
Standards plus
-disposal of dredge soils not to go back to the ocean waters. (proper
permits to be obtained).
-copies of all permits, etc. to be supplied to the Commission.
-Certificate of compliance from previous filing to be completed before
starting this new project.
- add Haley and Aldridge to the list of plans to be compiled to the
commission.
-No dredging materials to be stored on the site.
Motioned made by Peter
Seconded by Bill
AL_t._ IN FAV()R
Discussion Re: Common Lane.
Viewed by Peter-Vinnie-George-Robin
Hay bales should be replaced.
Place is a mess.
Bill motioned for an Enforcement Order to be issued.
Peter seconded
ALL IN FAVOR
Motion to invite Northland to our next meeting Sept 8th. made by Peter
Seconded by Vinnie
ALL IN FAVOR
AGENDA POSTING -TABLED
DISCUSSION RE: WELLINGTON HILLS/HAYBALES
MOTION TO ADJOURN MADE BY BILL at 10:25 P.M.
SECONDED BY JOE.
ALL IN FAVOR