1998-06-03Don Martin, Chairman
Nelland Douglas, Vice-Chairman
Norwood Pond Commission
Kevin Burke
Tina Cassidy
William Frost
Todd Lampell
David Lang
J. Michael Lawlet
Virginia McGlynn
Joyce McMahon
Bruce Nardelia
Norwood Pond Commission
MEETING MINUTES
JUNE 3, 1998
Members present: Chairman Don Martin, Vice-Chairman Neiland
Douglas, J. Michael Lawler, Bruce Nardella, Joyce McMahon, Bill
Frost, Virginia McGlynn, David Lang, Tina Cassidy and Frank
Killilea.
Chairman Martin calls the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m. and asks
if any members of the public present wish to make comments or ask
questions.
Ron Johnsen states that he has two issues; the first is
designating this City-owned land as Conservation land, because he
feels this would permit passive recreation, prevent any
development and preserve the area; the second matter is that he
feels that the issue of the North Shore Music Theater and Parker
Brothers not being on the sewer line should be a separate issue
from the overpass.
Martin asks if there is any other public comment. There is none.
Next, Martin asks members if they have reviewed the draft minutes
of the May 6, 1998 meeting and whether there are any suggested
corrections/additions. There were none.
Douglas:
motion to accept the May 6, 1998' meeting minutes as
drafted, seconded by McGlynn. All members in favor,
motion carries.
Next, members get an update from Douglas with respect to a
meeting held with business owners, Richard and Leo Maestranzi,
that it was a very beneficial meeting, and that both owners
understand the City's efforts. Douglas states that the
Maestranzi's said the size of the water line is a 12" main on
Dunham Road and that it feeds Parker Brothers. Douglas states
that Maestranzi pointed out that Parker Brothers and the North
Shore Music Theater installed their own sewer system, that is
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forced up onto Dunham Road, and to connect both facilities onto
public sewer wouldn't create any problems. Douglas states that
he was impressed with the enthusiasm received from Maestranzi
with respect to what is going on and the planning, and will fully
cooperate with the Commissions efforts.
Lang asks if any particulars were discussed with respect to what
they have planned regarding development of their property.
Douglas states that they didn't get into details, that they are
caught up in the permitting process, but states that they are
fully prepared to cooperate with the City to the fullest extent.
Douglas explains that Maestranzi indicated one other thing, that
the leachate pump located on the other side of Rt. 128 is on
Maestranzi property and if the City has problems identifying the
location of the outfall pipe, he will help the commission flag
it.
Lang asks if there will be any development problems because the
street ends in a cul-de-sac. Cassidy states that there are two
issues she sees here, one issue is the Planning Board's Rules &
Regulations which limits dead-end roadway lengths to 500'; the
other is the need to make sure they can get sufficient water
pressure.
Lang asks if there is a possibility of a looped waterline there.
Cassidy states that a loop is one way to increase pressure, but
that there are a couple of options. Lawler explains that there
is a grandfathering condition that states that the street cannot
be turned into a through street.
Lang asks if they (Maestranzi) have filed any subdivision
applications with the Planning Board. Cassidy responds no.
McGlynn asks if there isn't any possible way for Dunham Road to
be extended for an access to Beaver Pond Road. Cassidy states
that there are two issues that would make it unlikely: (1)
Beaver Pond Road is a private way; and (2) Essex County Green
Belt Association owns property between Beaver Pond Road and the
end of Dunham Road.
Next, members get an update from Frank Killilea with respect to
the pump station repairs. Killilea explains that they are
located the force main, that they pressurized it with air, and
located 2-3 leaks. Killilea explains that the force main ended
30-40 yards short of the sewer pick-up on the south side of the
hill where the City picks up surface water in a swale, and notes
that the discharge is well within the limits imposed by DEP.
Killilea further explains that as a result of locating the main,
they went back to the pump pit and installed a new pump that is
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located in a confined space approximately 20-25' deep, but that
the pump wasn't large enough to handle the capacity. City
workers pulled up the existing pump, cleaned out the propeller
and put it back down in the pit until the new larger pump is
available. Killilea notes that they ordered two additional
pumps, one to be installed, the other to be kept in stock. When
the new pump does come in, the City has contracted with
Talkington Edson Environmental Management who specialize in this
type of work to install it.
Killilea further states that they did have TEEM extend the force
main and connect it into the sewer line of South Essex Sewerage
District, that they cleared out the area in front of the
catchment area, and notes that it will still continue to let
surface water be caught and directed to the sewer, a more
positive control.
Lawler asks what the old GPM (gallons per minute) was and what
the new GPM is. Killilea explains that there was no meter on
line, that they have pump curves, but that he believes that there
is 100 GPM, and states that 100 GPM's are not sufficient and
therefore the City is purchasing a larger pump with more
horsepower.
Frost asks what the red light at the pump indicates. Killilea
explains that the red light means that the power is on, but that
it doesn't mean that the pump is pumping. The red light should
always be on.
Douglas asks where the location of the force main is located on
the plan. Killilea shows where the force main is, and states
that it runs along the edge of the rubbish footprint.
Lang states that the pump will be difficult to properly maintain
because of the leachate. Killilea states to the extent that we
can maintain by pulling it up to the surface, and cleaning it,
but if we have to go down into the hole, TEEM will have to do the
maintenance. Lang suggests that TEEM make a way for the City to
be able to bring the pump up because it will have to be cleaned
out monthly.
Lawler asks if the new pump will take care of the water, if it is
large enough to handle the maximum flow. Killilea explains that
the pump is supposed to pump the leachate water, that all other
water will have to go to the catch basins, that the intent is to
maintain the leachate, and to keep the two flows separate.
Killilea states that this arrangement is temporary for the next
two years until the City can cap the landfill.
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Frost asks what the results were from the sampling TEEM took.
Killilea explains that the test results should be finalized by
Friday, and will have the results distributed by the end of the
week. Killilea states that he did bring a copy of Malcolm
Pirnie's letter (On File) for members, and notes that they did a
sampling program of the leachate.
Lang asks with respect to iron and magnesium levels are these
pipes equipped to handle the nature of the liquid. Killilea
responds yes.
McMahon asks what the acronyms COD & TDS stand for which are
the report. Killilea explains that COD stands for chemical
oxygen demand and that TDS stands for total dissolved solids.
in
Martin asks if the over all numbers are better than expected.
Lang responds yes, better than he thought.
Martin asks, based on your knowledge should these numbers be
looked at further? Lang states that they should look at a number
of nutrients compounds including ammonia, total phosphorous,
arsenil chloride.
Frost asks if the matter can be rectified. Killilea states that
when the land is capped, this will eliminate the flow, but will
still get the nutrients, that the intent is to catch all the
leachate and direct it to the municipal sewer system. Killilea
explains that Malcolm Pirnie is contracted to do testing four
times a year, and that another report will be available on
8/15/98/.
Douglas asks if the northern run~off and eastern side of the dump
area are to be controlled. Killilea explains that it is Malcolm
Pirnie's intent to continue to see that the surface water goes
where it goes now.
Next, members get an update from Frank Killilea with respect to
the overpass engineering. Killilea explains that they are
planning to talk with some firms, as early as Friday, that have
real experience in working with Mass Highway as well as having
transportation skills.
Douglas suggests that the chosen firm be made aware that they
will assist the commission in determining appropriate access
measures for this area.
Douglas asks if an RFP is needed. Killilea responds no. Cassidy
states that there are a couple of different ways to go about
this, that she is checking it out. Killilea states that they
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intend to have preliminary discussions with several firms and by
mid July have a firm hired.
Lawler asks what is the status of the money the State funded for
preliminary designs. Cassidy explains that the Mass Highway
Department will make the design money available once a consultant
is chosen.
Lang states that he would be reluctant to get into a large long
term contract with a firm, for a preliminary design only, but
that he is in favor of hiring a firm when a larger feasibility
study is planned, and that he would like to proceed in that
manner.
Douglas states that the firm will have to see the whole process
and how it relates to this commission, and asks Killilea how the
interest of this commission will mesh with an engineering firm.
Killilea states that the firm will have to relate with this
commission, that it will be one of their requirements.
Douglas states that Killilea efforts have been enormously
productive, that the process is going in the right direction.
Nardella asks if this phase would include an economic analysis.
Douglas states yes, and that he thinks it would.
Frost asks who/what body is picking the firm, and who will keep a
real good eye on the firm. Killilea states that he will be the
one.
Lang asks if a meeting has been set up with Parker Brothers and
the North Shore Music Theater. Cassidy responds no.
Douglas states that they do have a meeting scheduled with the
Cycles 128 and the Evening News.
Lang asks if it would be in the best interest of the commissio~
to have some type of dialog with the neighborhood. Douglas
states yes, why not. Lawler states that the neighborhood is
concerned with how this will all work out.
Next, Pamela Kamperso11 discusses the overlay map she created to
help the members locate the 10 vernal pools in the Norwood Pond
area.
Ron Johnsen reviews the overlay, and states that the vernal pool
at the base of the hill by Parker Brothers and the vernal pool
located on the Parker Brothers property are not yet certified,
but are on their own private property, but that the vernal pool
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located on the Maestranzi property is certified but is under
appeal.
Kampersoll explains that the green dots on the overlay map
indicate an area where a 200 year old forest exists.
Martin states that the map will help the Commission understand
what land is usable.
Cassidy asks Killilea if the Commission could have this plotted
on the plan. Killilea says the information can be added.
Renee Mary asks if the Mass Audobon Society will be notified as
well as Essex Green Belt of this 200 year old forest.
McGlynn states that this is the first time that mention of an old
growth forest has been made since the Commission was formed, and
asks if anything has been recorded for maintaining this old
growth zone. Frost explains that the original college study
makes note of the surrounding land as an old growth forest.
Kampersoll notes that there is still items that need to be
removed from the site.
McMahon:
motion to request the Department of Public Services to
finish cleaning up the area around Norwood Pond,
seconded by McGlynn. All members in favor, motion
carries.
Next, the members voted to wait until the overlay is in place
before they decide on the areas for potential recreational areas.
They also thank Ms. Kampersoll for her work in preparing the map.
Martin notes that the next regular meeting of the Commission will
be held on Wednesday, July 1, 1998 at 7:30 p.m. at City Hall. He
asks if there are any members of the public who wish to address
the group before the meeting is adjourned.
Bill Coughlin asks how the landfill capping will effect Norwood
Pond. Killilea explains that they have scheduled the capping
process to take place by November of 1999, that the capping will
direct all storm water off the surface and not go through the
rubbish, that it will be diverted off the landfill and directed
away from there, and explains that this is part of Malcolm
Pirnie's matter.
Coughlin asks if the surface water will be diverted into storm
drains, and if the only thing diverted to the pond is
groundwater, and asks if it will continue to contain leachate.
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Coughlin asks if there is enough soil for capping. Killilea
states yes, and explains that they submitted two plans to DEP,
the first plan assumes the City can get the maximum quantity from
the Big Dig, the second plan assumes no fill. Killilea states
that they haven't gotten a response to the second plan yet, but
yes, we are going to cap with material that we already have,
cleaned material, uncontaminated material to prepare for swales
and drainage on site; the City will not have to go out and get a
lot of material.
McMahon asks once the cap is put on, will more dirt have to be
placed on top, and would it present a problem. Killilea explains
that this would depend on the use of the cap, that if anything is
done on top of the cap more soil will have to be brought in. The
liner will be covered with topsoil.
Killilea explains that the capping process is an 11 month
project, that the contract is being prepared, and will go out for
bid in November. The process will start in January 1999 and be
finished by November 1999. Killilea states that they want to
push back some rubbish in January and February to reduce the
existing landfill footprint.
McMahon asks what the present leachate information shows.
Killilea explains that it was not extensive, it was quite
localized, the numbers are low and that he is not sure how far
they intend to go with trapping leachate, but that will be
Malcolm Pirnie's first requirement, additional investigation to
what new leaching field we'll need.
Johnsen asks what is causing the contamination on Maestranzi's
land. Lang states that he doesn't think it is contaminated from
landfill.
Johnsen states that with respect to the clean-up at Norwood Pond,
private citizens go out and clean up the area on a voluntary
basis, so this issue won't involve a big expense to the City.
Renee Mary asks with respect to the landfill and the amount of
fill, does the City knows the total of how much it will cost.
Killilea states that a future use has not been identified, that
this is the plan that has been approved by DEP, and explains that
the cap that is going to be used is very expensive, and states
that it will always be a landfill.
McMahon states that there will need to be long term planning for
this site, that there will be limitations and that the area will
have to be monitored for 30 years.
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Martin asks if anyone else wishes to address the Commission.
There were none.
McMahon: motion to adjourn, seconded by McGlynn. All members in
favor, motion carries.
Kamperso11 asks who has authority over the dam at Norwood Pond
when repairs and maintenance are needed. Killilea states that if
there is a problem, the Engineering Department is responsible.
Meeting is adjourned at 9:05 p.m.