2014-05-15CITY OF BEVERLY
PUBLIC MEETING MINUTES
COMMITTEE OR COMMISSION: Community Preservation Committee
SUBCOMMITTEE:
DATE: May 15, 2014
LOCATION: Beverly City Hall, Third Floor Conference Room B
MEMBERS PRESENT: Wendy Pearl — Chairperson, Darien Crimmin — Vice Chair,
Heather Richter, Marilyn McCrory, Leland McDonough, Lincoln
Williams, Robert Buchsbaum and John Thomson
MEMBERS ABSENT: Henry Pizzo
OTHERS PRESENT: Amy Maxner, Environmental Planner; Ron Costa — Beverly
resident and former City Councilor, Tim Smith — Mass. VFW
representative and Peter Johnson — Beverly resident
RECORDER: Amy Maxner
The meeting was called to order at 7:00 P.M.
Pearl welcomes members of the public who introduce themselves.
Administrative Updates from Staff
Maxner notes that the Hastings House application was missing some photos, and the applicant re-
packaged the application, which are handed out copies to members.
She notes that a letter of support for the Lynch Park Carriage House study came in and she provides
copies to members. She notes that written public comment deadline is June 6, 2014.
Maxner explains that Craig Schuster had to step down as minutes taker for the CPC as his schedule
was too busy to continue. She notes that she will be taking and transcribing the minutes until a
replacement can be hired.
Williams adds that the Committee needs to discuss its position on bonding, how it impacts future CPA
budgets and understand the logistics thereto. Discussion ensues as to the pros and cons of bonding and
what percentage of future budgets should be committed to bonding. It is agreed that this topic should
be further explored as review of the current applications progresses.
Approval of Minutes
Buchsbaum moves to approve the January 30, 2014 meeting minutes as presented. Seconded by
Williams. The motion carries 8 -0.
Members offer Maxner amendments to the April 17, 2014 meeting minutes. Buchsbaum moves to
approve the minutes as amended. Seconded by McCrory. The motion carries 8 -0.
Pearl turns attention to the full CPA funding applications, which Maxner delivered to members on May
2" She asks if everyone had a chance to review the applications. Members note that they've done an
initial review of most in anticipation of discussion this evening. Pearl suggests following the table that
Maxner prepared and start reviewing per the order of the table. Everyone agrees there is not enough
time this evening to discuss all of the applications, but multiple meetings will be necessary for that
purpose. Additionally everyone agrees that these first conversations are intended to canvas members as
to their initial impressions of the projects and applications.
Essex Street Family Housing Roof Replacement — Beverly Housing Authority
Pearl asks if members had initial thoughts on the project. Buchsbaum notes his concern that, although
this was determined to be eligible, roof replacement seems to be maintenance, as roofs need
replacement cyclically and does not seem to be in the spirit of what CPA is meant to accomplish.
Williams would like to guard against projects that look for CPA funding that would be otherwise have
funding elsewhere, or the normal operating budget. McDonough explains that this is State funded
property, which is woefully under - funded for maintenance of buildings.
Thomson inquires as to whether these units are income producing and shouldn't there be reserves
placed aside for projects such as these. McDonough notes they are, but reiterates insufficient funding
by the State. Discussion ensues as to fiscal interaction between the Housing Authority and the State.
Pearl cautions that this discussion regarding financial history of an organization is not in line with the
CPC's Evaluation Criteria. Discussion ensues as to leveraging of other sources of funding as a
criterion, with members agreeing that this can be explored with the applicant. Members agree this
project should be further considered and perhaps backup information requested and questions
forwarded to the applicant, but tabled for now.
Harborlight House, 1 Monument Street — Harborlight Community Partners
Thomson recuses himself from this discussion and leaves the room.
Pearl notes this is a $300,000.00 request for a $7+ million project, so leveraging of other funds is
robust.
Buchsbaum found it difficult to determine the current condition of the building and its use of space
within (e.g. administrative, office, how much housing). Discussion ensues as to funding mechanism of
bonding suggested by the applicant. McCrory notes that this project seems to hit a lot of the CPC's
criteria and a very well prepared application, with Williams concurring. Pearl notes that she thinks it is
a strong housing project, but weak on the historic preservation category. Pearl discloses that
Harborlight Executive Director Andrew DeFranza is her daughter's kindergarden soccer coach.
Buchsbaum notes that per the evaluation criteria, this is actually decreasing the number of affordable
units, with McCrory noting that it is creating a different type of housing (i.e. independent living
situations).
Discussion ensues as to Beverly's current total housing units and the number of affordable over the
10 %, Pearl reads the numbers from MAHA chart found in the application, with 11.2% of affordable
units in the City. Richter inquires if the State tax credit was not received, what would happen to the
project. Crimmin notes that tax credits are so fundamental to the project that the project would not
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happen without them, which would be known in June. Members agree that this is a good application,
but additional information will be needed and further considered, but tabled for now. Pearl notes that
the historic preservation piece will need to be better vetted as it does not seem to her that the publicly
visible parts of the building will be worked on.
Thomson returns to the meeting.
Hale House Masonry Restoration, 39 Hale Street — Beverly Historical Society
Williams discloses that he is a direct abutter to the Hale House, believes he can be impartial on this
application and does not stand to financially gain from this project. Members are comfortable with
Williams participating in discussing this project. McCrory, Buchsbuam and McDonough note their
membership with the Historical Society.
Pearl notes this is a very straight forward bricks and mortar project, noting that she would like to have
seen the full phases slated for the entire property restoration, but it does not diminish the proposal. She
notes whether an historic preservation restriction should be required, which would entail finding a 3rd
party entity to hold the restriction. Crimmin notes there seems to be a need, but a third party report
was not submitted as part of the application as to current conditions and whether these repairs are an
emergency. Pearl notes that reports were done on the elements of the property but not included in the
application. Crimmin thinks it would be helpful to see those reports and how the timing of repairs
have been determined. Discussion ensues as to the phases of the multi -year plan for the property as
described in the application narrative. Pearl agrees that a copy of the assessment should be obtained.
Buchsbuam notes that the funding source leverage is not as strong as other applications. Members
agree to request a copy of the Historic Structures report and the 2012 Conservation Assessment Plan.
Historic Records Conservation Project 2014 -2015 - City of Beverly Clerk's Office
Thomson notes that he prepared the Beverly Archives Project report through about a year's worth of
work down in the basement of City Hall. Members thank Thomson for his work on this.
Pearl notes that she felt this project was very important and showed leveraging of funds since CPA
would only account for 50% of the cost. Williams and Buchsbaum concur. Pearl noted that perhaps
this could be approved under an early decision, but this can be further discussed. There being no
further comments, members move on to the next application.
Hastings House Architectural Analysis for Rehabilitation & Preservation — Farms - Prides
Community Association, Inc.
Peter Johnson explains that he is a member of the Association and would like to sit in and answer any
questions the CPC may have on this application. He notes that Kristin Ford the Association's
Treasurer prepared the application. Members welcome Johnson to the discussion.
Thomson asks if this is aimed to provide ADA compliance. Johnson notes that is part of it, but also to
reconfigure the space to make it more usable as it is very compartmentalized inside the building. He
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notes that the Association recognizes the need for the analysis, as members do not have the expertise to
tackle this without compromising the historic aspects.
Williams asks what percentage of the project CPA would go toward ADA compliance, historic
preservation etc. Johnson notes that depending on the cost analysis, the Association would have to
evaluate priorities, but that ADA compliance work would be a very large part of the budget. Pearl
confirms that the plan would be for the publicly available spaces. Johnson confirms, noting that almost
all of the work is inside.
Crimmin asks if there is a sense of where the money for the work phases of this project will come
from. Johnson states that is not known at this point, but a plan is needed to show any potential
investors hence this step first. Pearl states her appreciation for the thoughtful approach to this project
as the Association could have come in piecemeal.
Extensive discussion ensues as to the level of public use the building experiences, membership to the
Association, and functions operated out of the building. Pearl notes that she is not sure as to level of
public access that can be obtained since public money is being used for the interior of the building.
Discussion ensues as to the options to allow for public access short of rental or membership fees, as
well as operations of analogous quasi - public buildings. Johnson agrees to gather additional
information as to the public uses that have been provided.
Sanctuary Floor Replacement — First Parish Church
ADA Accessibility Improvements — First Parish Church
Crimmin discloses that he attends this Church occasionally. Members are fine with that disclosure.
Pearl notes her surprise that the Church submitted for both projects despite the CPC's encouragement
for applicants to narrow down their projects. Williams notes he was impressed that there are a lot
more public services conducted in that Church than he was aware of
The budgets of both projects are reviewed, with Pearl noting that outside funding is being leveraged.
McCrory did not see how the Church demonstrated their capacity to carry out the project or the
flooring project's merits as an historic preservation project. Pearl and Buchsbaum note that the
accessibility project seems a bit more urgent than the sanctuary flooring.
Discussion ensues as to the flooring project, with Pearl notes that despite the historic designation of the
building, there is no preservation of the original floor but rather replacement of it. McDonough notes
that he believes both projects stand on their own merits.
Discussion ensues as to elements of both projects relative to the CPC's evaluation criteria, with
members agreeing that the accessibility project is a stronger application. The question as to how the
replacement of the sanctuary floor qualifies as an historic preservation project, and whether this is a
structural repair to maintain the integrity of the floor or just aesthetic fixes. Members agree to table
these for now and move on.
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Lynch Park Carriage House Feasibility Study & Preservation Plan — Lynch Park Advisory
Committee
Thomson, Buchsbaum and McCrory concur that this seems to be an ideal project for CPA funding.
Discussion ensues as to the logistics of what entity would receive the money and with whom the CPA
funding contract would be established. Pearl notes her preference that the analysis include the
surrounding grounds, retaining walls and other features of the property that needs preservation work as
well, to ensure that the entire property is taken into account.
Crimmin notes that the water -side of the carriage house is in great need of restoration as it is unsightly.
Johnson notes that the Advisory Committee is well aware of that and has considered this as part of the
restoration.
McCrory notes that many of the applications haven't established the "community need" very well and
perhaps the criteria needs to be revised so that applicants better address this criteria. Members agree.
Pearl notes that it is 9:00, and the Committee has been able to review eight applications tonight. She
asks if there are any other items of discussion.
Crimmin and Williams inquire as to what ever happened to the Trustees of Reservations' Moraine
Farm project. Maxner explained that the Trustees were not able to provide for immediate public
access as expected by the City Administration, as there is a patchwork of ownership on the site, which
could not be worked out very quickly. McCrory explains the Open Space & Recreation Committee's
position relative to the Trustees' and Camp Paradise projects, which aimed to preserve open space
CPA funds for true open space projects as they consider Camp Paradise primarily a recreation project.
Next CPC Meeting
Pearl explains that she will be arriving late to the meeting on May 29 as she has a commitment. She
expects to arrive by 8:00 that evening. Members agree to start the meeting a bit later, at 7:30 p.m. and
Crimmin agrees to chair the meeting until Pearl's arrival.
Adjournment
Thomson moves to adjourn the meeting. Seconded by Williams. The motion carries 8 -0. The meeting
adjourned at 9:10 P.M.
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