1999-07-20City of Beverly, Massachusetts
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Conservation Commission
July 20, 1999
Beverly City Hall
Chairman David Lang, Dr. Mayo Johnson, Jay
Donnelly, Vice-Chairman Anthony Pah,77i, Pat
Grimes, Jon Mazuy, Richard Benevento (8:00)
Assistant City Planner Debbie Httrlburt
Jeannine Dion
Chairperson David Lang calls the meeting to order at 7:00 p.ra,
Old/New Business
Modification Discussion re: Brimball Avenue Landfill - DEP File #5-646//Citv of
Beverly
Frank Killilea reads a statement from Malcolm Perrile. The statement provides one
possible scenario for constructing an access road while causing minimum temporary
destruction to the wetland area~ Mr. Killflea states the city has a construction easement
on a 60 foot strip which is not owned by the City. Mr. Killllea states the City has
temporary construction easements in order to take out the rubbish which was deposited
on that portion of the !and. Mr. Killilea states the landowner has retained ownership of
the 60 foot strip of land. Mr. Killilea states the City took ownership of the rest of the
land south of the 60 foot strip.
Marshall Handly states the reason why the City has maintained the alley of passage is to
avoid an administrative taking of the industrially zoned land on the other side of the
landfall which is curremly accessible only through Brimball Avenue. Mr. Handly states
there is a substantial parcel of land east of the landfill that is not affected by the trash
deposits made over the years. Mr. Handly states the City doesn't want to effect eminent
domain if it does not have to. Mr. Handly states the City would like to maintain the alley
of access and has no plan to participate in constructing a roadway.
Mr. Lang states that one of the issues that the Commission has to look at is if there is any
change to the original Notice of Intern which would warrant holding a new public
hearing. Mr. Lang states the contour of the original road configuration has changed. Mr.
Killilea states that rubbish had been deposited. Mr. Killllea states an additional 5,000 to
6,000 cubic yards of material had to he removed. Mr. Killilea states they did not backfill
to the original grades. Mr. Lang asks if all of the trash has been removed. Mr. Killilea
responds in the aflhnative.
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Ms. Grimes asks Mr. Killilea to clarify the color code on the plans. Mr. Killilea
complies.
Mr. Palur~i asks what the size of the area in question. Mr. Killilea responds 1/10 of an
acre. Mr. Lang asks how much wetland is being affected.
Mr. Killilea introduces Ken Coffee, resident site representative of Malcolm Pentie. Mr.
Coffee presenti pictures of the site to the commission members for review. Ms. Hurlburt
presents pictures of the site which were taken during the site walk. The Commission
members viewed the pictures.
Mr. Donnelly asks for clarification regarding the drainage pipe. Mr. Killilea responds
that issue will have to he addressed at a later date.
Mr. Lang asks if anyone has talked with the landowner. Mr. Handly states he does not
think there is a need. Mr. Handly states the entire purpose of this request is to maintain
aCCeSS.
Mr. Lang asks for questions or comments from the Commission.
Mr. Mazuy moves to issue a minor modification for the recon~guration to Wetland A,
seconded by Tony Paluzzi. All members in favor. Motion carries.
Salem/Beverly Water SuDDIV Board
Mr. Lang states the City Solicitor, Marshall Handly has prepared a draft letter to the
Salem/Beverly Water Supply Board. Mr. Lang states the letter asks for clarification of
several issues.
Mr. Handly states that the Water Supply Board is asking for the Commission to assume a
lot of statements as facts without any substantiation. Mr. Handly states the Board has not
yet received test results from the consultant. Mr. Handly states that information is critical
and before the Commission goes before a tribunal it must know what the issues are.
Mr. Lang asks Mr. Handly what the next step would be if the Commission were to send
the proposed letter and the two parties are not in agreement. Mr. Handly states the matter
would go before a tribunal. Mr. Handly said he does not believe the Commission has all
the information to make an informed decision.
Mr. Lang states one of the issues to he discussed further is herms. There was discussion
regarding berms (permanent versus temporary structures).
Mr. Lang states he thinks the Commission needs to have further discussion regarding
other issues. Mr. Lang states piping to the wetland has been reconfigured and relocated.
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Mr. Handly states a benchmark must be established for future activities.
Mr. Lang states the Commission is not asking for anything. Mr. Lang states the issues
are wetland issues. Mr. Lang states he saw white particles, pieces of plastic, brick and
solid waste. Mr. Lang states this is a public health issue. Mr. Lang states this is not a
public drinking water issue.
Mr. Mazuy states that the wetlands are contiguous to the public water supply.
Mr. Donnelly moves to issue a Cease and Desist of all activities until the Water Board
has given an opinion as to what measures are needed to protect the wetlands, seconded by
Mr. Mazuy. 2 in favor (Dennelly, Mazuy), 4 opposed (Johnson, Lang, Pal,,~i, Grimes).
Motion fails.
Mr. Mazuy moves that Commission members submit any additional comments to the
City Solicitor by Thursday, July 22, 1999 at 3:00 p.ra~, and the Solicitor can consider
those opinions and comments and include if appropriate, and have the Water Supply
Board respond hi writing by the Commission's next meeting of Augnst 10, 1999,
seconded by Tony Pal-~zi. All members in favor. Motion carries.
Determination of Applicability
New: 6 Lakeside Avenue - rel~radin~ and slope stabilization/Modern Landscape
David Brogan from Modem Landscapes appears on behalf of the applicant, Robert Levin.
Mr. Bmgan states he is proposing to regrade the rear of the property line and install
timbers to stabilize the slope. Mr. Brogan states the grass and vegetation is not holding
the soil.
Ms. Grimes asks what type of wall is being proposed. Mr. Bmgan responds a timber
wall.
Mr. Paluzzi asks if the wall will hold the hill hack. Mr. Brogan said the wall should last
30-40 years. Mr. Brogan concedes this is not a permanent solution.
]Mr. Lang stmes he would like to see a plan. Mr. Lang states he thinks the property is so
close to Wenham Lake that the applicant must file a Notice of Intent.
Mr. Mazuy states the applicant should provide the Commission with the following
information: Notice of Intent; Map cross section; location of the proposed fence;
proposed landscape elevation and designation of trees be cut down.
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Mr. Mazuy moves to issue a Positive Determination of Applicability, seconded by Tony
Paluzzi, All members in favor. Motion carries.
Mr. Mazuy moves to recess for public hearing. All members in favor. Motion carries.
3 Morlan's Island Road:
Pat Grimes recuses herself from discussion on this issue.
Debbie Hurlburt states that she received a letter from Mr. Gary Dionne seeking an
extension to the Commission's next regular meeting of August 10, 1999.
Mr. Mazuy moves to grant an extension to the August 10, 1999 meeting, seconded by
Tony Painful. All members in favor. Motion carries (5-0-1).
218 Hart Street:
Debbie Hurlburt states the applicant, Christopher Welles is seeking an extension to the
August 10, 1999 meeting.
Mr. Paluzzi moves to grant an extension to the August 10, 1999 meeting, seconded by
Mr. Mazuy. All members in favor. Motion carries (6-0).
Hale Street - boundary determination/Endicott College
John Dick from Hancock Environmental represents the applicant, Endicott College. Mr.
Mr. Dick states the area being discussed this evening is the area north and west of the
townhouse dorms. Mr. Dick states the core wetland is north and west of the dorms and
the isolated vegetated wetlands are west of the dorms.
Mr. Dick states there was some question concerning rip rap fill by the athletic field. Mr.
Dick states he did research and found there was a filing in 1994 for developmere of the
field. Mr. Dick states the plans prepared by Hayes Engineering for that developmere
indicated a fairly steep embankment with rip rap that appeared to be pretty old. Mr. Dick
states the work done on the field included some new rip rap which was placed on top of
the embankment. Mr. Dick states there was no activity anywhere in the wetlands. Mr.
Dick said clearly somebody put 15 - 20 feet of rip rap in, but he does not believe that
would intrude upon the wetlands. Mr. Dick points out an embankment which has oM fill.
Mr. Dick states the rip rap consists ofbeulders 3 - 6 feet in diameter. Mr. Dick states on
top of the embankment there is a drainage outlet from the new field which is new.
Mr. Dick states the two issues related to the determination are:
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Delineated wetland (Mr. Dick points out the area in question) - Mr. Dick states that
Mr. Mazuy recormnended adjustments to that line. Mr. Dick states he complied
with Mr. Mazuy's request.
Question as to how many wetlands them actually are due west of the dornk Mr.
Dick states them are three parametar wetlands -- soils, vegetation and hydrology
present during all times of the year. Mr. Dick states they are clearly federal
designated wetlands but below the federal jurisdictional guidelines (less than 5,000
square feet). Mr. Dick states he calculated the area in question and only winds up
with 5,600 square feet. Mr. Dick states the mgulatory standard is twice that. Mr.
Dick said the only other category that these wetlands fit into is isolated land subject
to flooding. Mr. Dick states they do not rise to that regnlatory standard. Mr. Dick
states they are clearly wetlands but in the category I - not reporting under 5,000
square feet. Mr. Dick states that is why they are called isolated vegetated wetlands
and he asks for that determination.
Mr. Lang asks if there are any questions from the Commission.
Mr. Mazuy asks Mr. Dick to clarify rip rap near the flag are~ Mr. Dick points out the
area in question on the plan and states the rip rap existed prior to 1994. Mr. Mazuy asks
ifthere is rip rap within the 100 foot buffer zone. Mr. Dick responds in the alT~rmative.
Mr. Mazuy states that is his primary concern.
Mr. Lang asks Mr. Dick if he has calculations for the federal wetlands. Mr. Dick states
only in the form of his letter but he can provide the field notes. Mr. Lang stated that he
would like to have the calculations submitted. Mr. Lang asked if the wetland could he a
vernal pool. Mr. Dick responded that he didn't think it could hold water for long periods.
Mr. Mazuy asks if the Commission could request the rocks that are within the 100 foot
buffer zone be removed. Mr. Dick states he does not think it would be inappropriate to
make such a request. Mr. Dick states he does not think it would cause any more damage
to the wetlands that has already been caused.
Mr. Mazuy also asks about planting trees. Mr. Dick states that in his initial report he
recommended to do some plantings. Mr. Dick states a lot of trees were killed by
deposition of stone and any increment of light changes the vegetated condition.
Mr. Lang asks if there are any questions from the audience.
Renee Mary, 274 Hale Street reads a letter expressing her concerns.
Dave McCabe, 273 Hale Street questions the accuracy of the map. Mr. McCabe states it
is relevant as to whether or not there is a contiguous wetland. Mr. McCabe states it is
worth being cautious about this area.
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Mr. Mazuy moves to have the applicant clarify the federal wetland with a survey and
calculations, and submit a plan to remove the boulders and show vegetation that will
replace the boulders moved, seconded by Jay Donnelly. All members in favor. Motion
carries 5-0-2. Benevento and Johnson abstain.
Mr. Mazuy moves to continue the public hearing to September 21, 1999 so that the
survey can be accomplished, seconded by Tony Paln~i. Motion carries 5-0-2.
Benevento and Johnson abstain.
Mr. Mazuy moves that the Commission obtain the services of an independent consultant
to review the delineated areas prior to the meeting of August 10, 1999 and not to exceed
$1,000, seconded by Tony Painful Motion carries 5-0-2. Benevento and Johnson
abstain.
476 Essex Street - single family house/Ne!~rotti & Boches
Brian Boehes, applicant for the project addresses the Commission. Mr. Boches
recommends building a pest and rail fence. Mr. Boches asks if he could add a deck to the
house. Mr. Benevento responds that could be put in the Order of Conditions.
Ms. Hurlburt questions the location of the driveway because it is in a different location as
previously discussed. Mr. Boches stated this is a different plan. Ms. Hurlburt states she
would like Mr. Boches to provide the Commission with an accurate plan within a few
days.
Mr. Mazuy moves to close the public hearing, seconded by Tony PalnzTi. All members
in favor. Motion carries.
240-250 Elliott Street - commercial center renovations/Marciano
Mr. Benevento recuses himself from discussion on this issue.
Applicant requests extension to the Commission's next meeting of August 10, 1999.
Mr. Mazuy moves to continue the public hearing to the Commission's next meeting of
August 10, 1999. Motion carries 5-0-2. Benevento and Johnson abstain.
Hale Street - boundary determination/l~,ndicott CoileRe (HaVes)
Mr. Benevento recuses himself from discussion on this issue.
Attorney Thomas Alexander addresses the Commission on behalf of the applicant
Endicott College. Also present is Peter Ogren from Hayes Engineering.
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Mr. Alexander states the Momessori School is proposing to move to this site. Mr.
Alexander states the school is curremly doing analysis of the topography, etc. Mr.
Alexander states his client is proposing to provide the Commission up to $1,000 to hire
an independem consultant to review the site.
Mr. Alexander introduces Mr. Ogren. Mr. Ogren states there is a river and one vernal
pool where the applicant is seeking determination. Mr. Ogren once again proposes the
Commission hire an independent consultant and then proceed with the consultant on site
walks and proceed from there.
Mr. Mazuy asks Mr. Ogren if he considers this determination controversial. Mr. Ogren
states there is nothing comroversial - the applicant is just looking for a determination.
Mr. Alexander adds the applicant is offering to pay for the consultant because of time
constraints.
Mr. Lang asks Commission members have any questions. There are none.
Mr. Lang asks if audience members have any questions.
Barbara Amos, 280 Hale Street asks for explanation of the process.
Mr. Lang responds that the applicant is asking for the Commission to determine where
the wetlands are. When that is determined, the Commission will approve or disapprove.
Mr. Lang states the parties are just trying to agree on the location of the wetlands.
Renee Mary, 274 Hale Street reads a letter alleging the applicant did not notify all
abutters and requests all proceedings cease until all abutters have been notified.
Ms. Hurlburt responds she is not sure that all abutters must be notified. Ms. Hurlburt
states this is an abbreviated resource area delineation and according to the general
instructions, nothing is indicated regarding abutter noti~catiom Ms. Hurlburt states she
will contact the DEP tomorrow to clarify.
A member at the public hearing asks if the public could attend the site walk. Mr.
Alexander responds in the affirmative but adds the participants would have to sign a
waiver of liability.
Mr. Lang recommends scheduling a site walk. The Commission members agree to
schedule the site walk on July 31, 1999 at 8:00 a.m.
Mr. Paluzzi moves to cominue the public hearing to the Commission's next meeting of
August 10, 1999, and to accept the applicant's offer to hire an independent consultam to
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review the delineated area with an amount of $ 1 ,000 by the next meeting, seconded by
Mr. Mazuy. Motion carries 6-0-1. Benevento abstains.
495R Cabot Street - sinlie story dwelline/Ewaschuk
George Zambouras, 14 Noble Hill Road, engineer for the project representing the
applicant Walter Ewaschuk, addresses the Commission,
Mr. Zambouras states the applicant is proposing a 40 x 90 foot single story dwelling
(building). Mr. Zambouras states the foundation exists. Mr. Zambouras states the
Conservation Commission requested the applicant to cease work and file for a
determination for a portion of the land. Mr. Zambouras provided corrected drainage
calculations to the Commission members. Mr. Zambouras states he would like to
complete construction.
Mr. Mazuy asks if the drainage calculations are based on what existed before
construction. Mr. Zambeuras responds in the affh'mative.
Mr. Lang asks if there are any questions from the public.
William Squibb, 509 Cabot Street asks how an industrial craftsman shop can he called a
dwelling.
Mr. Zambouras responds that he is showing a 40 x 90 foot structure on the plan. Mr.
Zamhouras states the applicant has a building permit and an existing approved
subdivision plan. Mr. Zambouras states the applicant is going before the Planning Board
with a revised variance.
Mr. Mazuy moves to close the public hearing, seconded by Mr. Palu77i. Motion carries
6-0-1. Mr. Donnelly abstains.
2 Chanticleer Drive - landscapinE and up~rade walkover bridge/Kinvin & Ba!lard
Doug Cook from Landesign appears on behalf of his cliems Ed Kirwin and Dana Ballard.
Mr. Cook states his cliems are looking to f'me tune their landscaping by adding plamings
and reseeding lawn. Mr. Cook states he is also looking for recommendations the
Commission may have on how to enhance the area. Mr. Cook states his clients would
like to upgrade a bridge. Mr. Cook states his clients want to m~ake the bridge safe and
more decorative. Mr. Cook states he recently discovered work is expected to start on the
brook by the City and is looking for recommendations from the Commission on how to
proceed.
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Ms. Grimes states if the work proposed on the bridge is very minimal, that is one thing.
But if the work is anything morn than decorative, she would want to know.
Mr. Benevento ash if the stream is running all the time. Mr. Cook responds in the
affirmative. Mr. Benevento recommends the applicant provide calculations to ensure no
flooding upstream.
Mr. Cook states he would he happy to wait until he knows more about the work being
proposed on the brook. Mr. Cook states that his clients are looking for any
recommendations the Commission may have.
Mr. Benevento asks if there is any grading being proposed. Mr. Cook responds there is
not much - looking to make a nice lawn.
Mr. Mazuy asks members if the property was approved by this Commission. Mr. Mazuy
is quite concerned that the property is right up to the stream, Mr. Lang responds that he
never approved it.
Ms. HurlbuR states the work was approved by the Commission. Ms. HurlbuR states the
DEP superceded.
Mr. Mazuy asks if the applicant intends to use hay bails to eliminate erosion. Mr. Cook
responds in the affirmative. Mr. Mazuy asks if the applicant intends to use 6 inches of
top soil. Mr. Cook responds he does intend to use it in soma spots.
Mr. Paluzzi asks if the applicant intends to rototill. Mr. Cook responds he does not
because he does not want more erosion. Mr. Cook states he intends to loam and top seed.
Mr. Mazuy asks if the applicant would consider putting sod in the immediate area near
the brook so it would hold it better. Mr. Cook said he would consider sod but he said the
area is very shady and it may cause more of a problem.
Mr. Lang asks Mr. Cook if he would consider hydroseed. Mr. Cook responds in the
affirmative. Mr. Cook adds that his clients are not looking to clear cut, they just want a
nicer lawn. Mr. Cook states once again that he is open to recommendations from the
Commission.
Mr. Paluzzi questions Mr. Cook ahem his intentions for brush along the brook. Mr. Cook
responds that he would clear only dead plant material.
Mr. Benevento states he does not have a problem with cutting dead vegetation however,
he thinks someone should go to the site so Mr. Cook doesn't cut the wrong types of
vegetation. Mr. Cook states that is a good recommendation.
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Mr. Mazuy states he has had an opportunity to visit the site and would recommend other
Commission members do the same.
Mr. Lang asks for questions or comments from the public.
Deborah Gorsline, 143 Valley Street advised the Commission that superseding Order of
Conditions exists from DEP in relation to this property. Ms. Gorsline states the Order of
Conditions designates a no cut zone and prohibits the use of liquid fertilizer, sodium
chloride, herbieides, etc. Ms. Corsline states this information should be in the deed of the
property. Ms. Gorsline stales there is also a restriction from cutting down any tree
greater than 2 inches in diameter. Mr. Cook responded that he would like to review the
deed.
Ward Six Councilor John Murray, 14 Greenwood Avenue recommends the Commission
contact the City Engineer. Mr. Murray said the immediate abutter, who did not want the
subdivision to be developed, may have more information for the Commission regarding
restrictions. Mr. Cook states his clients are very open to working with the neighborhood.
Renee Mary, 274 Hale Street recommends the Commission speak with the Salem Sound
2000's Steam team.
Mr. Benevento states that since the prime growing season for grass is September/October,
he would like to visit the site before making any decisions or recommendations.
Mr. Benevento moves to continue the public hearing to the Commission's next meeting
of August 10, 1999, seconded by Jon Mazuy. Motion carries, 6-1 (Lang opposed).
Cabot Street (narcel south of 770 Cabot Street) house construction/Nadeau
John Dick from Hancock Environmental addresses the Commission on behalf o f the
applicant, Ron Nadeau.
Mr. Dick states he did a site delineation, sited structure and drainage with utilities. Mr.
Dick proposed to level off the property, grade evenly and build a house. Mr. Dick asks
the Board ifa site visit could be scheduled.
Mr. Dick states there has been some alteration to the property over the years. Mr. Paluzzi
asks if soil samples have been taken. Mr. Dick responds that samples have not been
taken and adds the drainage is very poor and the property is very flat.
Renee Mary, 274 Hale Street states there is a lot ofgroandwater.
Mr. Benevento asks if there are stakes on the property. Mr. Dick states in the negative
but states he will set stakes for a site visit.
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A site walk was scheduled to take place on July 31, 1999 at 10:00 a.m.
Mr. Benevento moves to continue the public hearing to the Commission's next meeting
of August 10, 1999, seconded by Tony Palnzzi. All members in favor. Motion carries.
Orders of Conditions
476 Essex Street
Mr. Paln~i moves to issue Special Conditions:
1. Commission standard conditions
2. The edge of the wetland must be bounded by a fence, two feet from the edge of the
wetland, and these must be approved by the Commission prior to commencement of
activity;
3. The revised plan must show all changes discussed at the meeting: new deck,
driveway access, fence, and must be submitted and approved by the Commission
prior to construction.
Motion seconded by Mr. Benevento. All members in favor. Motion carries 7-0.
495R Cabot Street
Mr. Benevento moves to issue Commission standard conditions, seconded by Tony
Paluzzi. Motion carries 6-0-1 (Dounelly abstains).
133 Common Lane
Mr. Benevento moves to grant a modification contingent upon the Commission agent to
verify the location of the house footprint and the surrounding vegetation, seconded by
Tony PaluTzi. All members in favor. Motion carries 7-0.
10 Foster's Point - Enforcement Order Discussionfrhoml}son
John Dick from Hancock Environmental addresses the Commission on behalf of the
applicant, Scott Thompson.
Mr. Dick gives a brief smnmary about the soil in the area. Mr. Dick states the soil in
from of the house is slightly granular and tough for grass to grow. Mr. Dick proposes to
work the sand into the soil by planting vegetation and planting the marsh back to anchor
the grass. Mr. Dick recommends a three year planting. Mr. Dick states there are two
ways this matter may be approached 1) the Commission can allow the applicant to go
forward until the planting is done or 2) require the applicant to file a Notice of Intent.
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Mr. Lang asks for questions or comments from the Commission.
Mr. Lang states he does not believe Notice of Intent is the best approach.
Mr. Benevento asks why Mr. Dick recommends a three year planting. Mr. Dick responds
that you can only plant so much at a time. Mr. Dick recommends three years because
you don't know if the grass is growing or dying.
Mr. Benevento asks what the Commission does with the Enforcement Order. Mr. Lang
responds that the Commission can look at it in a year. Mr. Lang states he does not think
the applicant wants to keep it open. Mr. Lang states this should get done as soon as
possible.
Mr. Benevento moves to accept the remedial methodology for the salt marsh restoration,
seconded by Mr. Mazuy. All members in favor. Motion carries 7-0.
Mr. Thompson said he needs to locate a vendor for the salt marsh and he will expedite the
restoration as soon as possible.
Vitale Conservation Land
Mr. Lang states the Mayor would like the Commission to send a, letter to the City Council
to recommend using the Viiale Conservation Lane for a hockey ~ink. Mr. Lang states the
Mayor is anxious to get this item moving for review and possible approval.
Mr. Mazuy asks if this is considered a useless piece of land from the perspective that it
has been misused. Mr. Lang states it used to be called 'Vitale's pit' and it was a disposal
area for many years. Mr. Lang states there is contamination on the property.
Mr. Mazuy asks if there will be a remediation as a result of this process. Mr. Lang
responds that the Mayor is vague. Mr. Lang further states that a Phase 2 study is being
conducted.
Mr. Benevento asks if this is not thriving open space. Mr. Lang responds that this land is
not like other conservation land; however, it does set a precedent.
Ms. Grimes states that this issue has recently been discussed in the MACC's Monthly
Newsletter, this is happening quite a bit lately everywhere, and recormmends the
Commission look at this very closely.
Mr. Benevento asks if the City will retain ownership.
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Mr. Mazuy asked if the Commission has broached the subject of getting something in
return. Mr. Lang responds in the affu'mative. Mr. Lang states that land around the
compost facility might he a land swap scenario. Mr. Lang said he is not sure if the
Conservation Commission would want it. Mr. Benevento adds a compost facility could
he a revitalization.
Mr. Lang said the Mayor is looking at different aspect of how it would work but has not
made a proposal. Mr. Long recommends visiting the site.
Dr. Johnson states he has visited the property. Dr. Johnson concurs that it b. as been
trashed but believes it could he remediated if the City has a proposal. Dr. Johnson
recommends having a public meeting and scheduling a site visit. Dr. Johnson warns the
Commission should he very careful about giving this land away.
Mr. Mazuy agrees with Dr. Johnson and states the Commission should write a letter to
the Mayor or schedule time to meet with him.
Mr. Lang adds that he thinks this is a real issue.
Mr. Mazuy states he does not believe this is the intent for open land. Ms. Grimes agrees
and states this may discourage people from leaving conservation land.
Mary Roderick, 14 Peabody Avenue provides copies of the Phase I Report. Ms.
Roderick expresses her concern about the proximity of the land to Wenham Lake. Ms.
Rodetick states this location is very close to a major water supply. Ms. Rodetick
expresses concern about forcing some chemicals into the groundwater.
Mr. Paluzzi moves to hold a special public meeting on September 1, 1999 at 7:00 p.m. to
discuss with the public the issues of releasing conservation land for skating facility,
seconded by Jon Mazuy. All members in favor. Motion carries 7-0.
(Mr. Long exits the meeting. Vice Chairman Anthony Paluzzi now chairs.)
Certificates of ComOliance
Chapel Hill
No one showed up. Item is tabled to next meeting.
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Glen Urcluhart School
A representative from Meridian Engineering appears on behalf of the applicant to request
a one-year extension in order to install a pool and build a cabana. He states all the
buildings have been completed in accordance with the proposed plans.
Mr. Benevento moves to grant a one-year extension for DEP file #5-543, seconded by
Tony Paluzzi. All members in favor. Motion carries 6-0.
Mr. Benevento moves to take no action on the request for a partial certificate of
compliance, seconded by Mr. Paluzzi. All members in ~vor. Motion carries 6-0.
Mr. Pal.7~ moves to adjourn, seconded my I~. Mazuy. All members in favor. Motion
carries 6-0.
Meeting adjourned at 11:00 p.m.