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CONSERVATION COMMISSION
BEVERLY. MASSACHUSETTS
MINUTES FROM MEETING ON SEPT. 10,1987
MEMBERS PRESENT: RAY BOUCHARD, BILL LISS
GEORGE BATCHELDER, PETER GILMORE, JOE MANZI, AND
PAULA BARTLETT
Meeting called to order at 7:55 P.M.
Motioned to recess for Public Hearing made by
Bill Liss, Seconded by Peter Gilmore
ALL IN FAVOR ~ ~
#5-261 Cont.
William and Ann Kelley
220 Common Lane Lot #3
Thaddeus Siemasko, Architect, made the presentation, using
amended plan.
Information sufficient--HEARING CLOSED
#5-269 Finn-Continued
Mornigside Drive Lot #19
Daniel Finn made the presentation. Lisa Woolworth, Engineer
was also present. Pipers are not being extended, only
relaying them. George questioned flooding at end of road
due to being not functional.
GENERAL PUBLIC
Mark Foster-Morningside Drive
Spoke of changes in contour lines when his lot comes before
us.
Peter questioned, will the contours change, from Lot #19 as
to when Foster's Filing comes before us?
Ray answered, the purpose is to fill and grade, and that's
the purpose.
Mr. Chalifour of 17 Mornigside Drive
Re: grading and water concern, the new catch basins won't be
sufficient enough to hold water, therefore, flooding. Feels
the pipe will be under water come springtime.
Tom McGovern of 19 Mornigside Drive
Re: water concerns, especially in the springtime.
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Mark Foster to Mr. Taubert
Re: Pipe/Flow is .41. sufficient?
Alan Taubert answered: Self cleaning velocity pitch of 12"
=.001
Information sufficient, Hearing Closed
#5-258 Cont. Cross Lane Realty Trust.
Representatives Charles (Bud) Corkin, Attorney and Peter
Ogren Hayes Engineering, John McKinnon H.W. Moore
Engineering.
Information submitted at this time. (amended plans also, a
report from Moore)
Bill requested a clearer understanding of the two changes.
Peter Ogren of Hayes Engineering concurs with H.W. Moore's
methodology regarding storm events, etc. (Mr.
Taubert-Existing storage is low, southeastern area has more
storage. )
Suggested "Deny the Project". A very poorly designed
project.
Much deliberation from Peter Ogren.
GENERAL PUBLIC
Lynne Stein of 251 East Lothrop St.
There's a 2 1/2' of water. Flood water rising from the
surface feels the regulations have to be interpreted in a
common sense way.
There's a channel in the area, there's vegetation there's a
stream. The issue is the land is flooding. The water will
flow through the retention basin and onto the dam. Mr.
Stein does not trust the dam.
Bud Corkin also deliberated over Stein's comments
Peter: wants clarified why calculations differ?
McKinnon: The key to this project is that the retention
basin will mitigate water problems, not the overflow on
Lothrop St.
George: Agrees this to be a detrimental project, concurs
with Alan Taubert.
Mr. Taubert feels much guess work was involved re: velocity
and calculations.
More deliberation from Stein.
Bill motioned to close the hearing,
Joe seconded
ALL IN FAVOR !
Peter Opposed
#5-265 Hios 9 Melvin Ave
Lot B Single House
Bob Fields, representing , SP Engineering
Bob and Peter viewed the site, all information submitted
sufficient.
HEARING CLOSED
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RECONVENE
REQUEST Gero Hart St.
Across from Preston Place
Bob Fortin representing Mrs. Nightingale stated the pond is
800 feet from property line.
Peter motioned a negative determination,
Joe seconded
ALL IN FAVOR I I
City of Beverly
End of Water St.
Joe motioned for a negative determination,
Bill seconded
ALL IN FAVOR ~ I
ORDER OF CONDITIONS
# 5-270 10 Fosters Pt. Malcolm Bruce
Bill motioned Standards
George Seconded
ALL IN FAVOR
#5-273 Leonhard's Lot #57
Peter motioned for Standards
George seconded
ALL IN FAVOR
Certificate of Compliance
Ellis #5-190
Bill motioned
Paula seconded
ALL IN FAVOR
COMMUNICATIONS
Bill motioned to deny the project based on all the
information and discussion Re; Cross Lane
Paula seconded
3 Abstain Joe, Peter, and George
Bill motioned to adjourn at 10=35 P.M.
Paula seconded
ALL IN FAVOR
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